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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darwinism" data-source="post: 5859214" data-attributes="member: 6669722">FR needs to be retired. The only redeeming feature in so long was the Spellplague.The Realms had way, way too many high-level characters. More than a few are Ed Greenwood's fault, the guy is way, way too prone to inserting pervy characters, many of them self-inserts, into the fiction. And, hell, I can't think of a single FR campaign I've played in that didn't, at some point, have Elminster or Khelben or Manshoon or any of the other few dozen 20+ characters showing up just because they make for such an enticing railroad. Remarkably few DMs even see it as railroading to toss Elminster into a game because so many people who actually take the fiction seriously are in love with that particular Mary Sue.Also why, why in the name of god is Forgotten Realms, one of the most boringly generic worlds imaginable, spoken of as 'high fantasy'? There's nearly nothing about it that's at all fantastical; it's derivative, unimaginative, and about as non-fantastic as you can get while still labeling it as fantasy. Fantasy is not the norm of reclusive elves in forests, reclusive dwarves under mountains, orc hordes threatening civilization, and so on. Those have been stock fantasy since 1937. The entire point of the word fantasy is being fantastical; being standard is not high fantasy.Oh and what really gets me is the complaining about the Spellplague is almost word-for-word what was said when the ToT was rolled out to explain that edition shift.</blockquote>

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