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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6470165" data-attributes="member: 177">Irrelevant to the point.&nbsp; The game has only just been published in what amounts to a complete form.&nbsp; If you really want to count back to the MM, that only adds a couple of months.&nbsp; Still not enough time for people with jobs and families and obligations to have played the game in fullness.&quot;X will be X&quot; does not actually excuse undesirable behavior.&nbsp; All it tells you is that the state of being X ought to be examined, which I had effectively pointed out anyway.This is not to say the books are above critique, or that one can't note stuff they'd like.&nbsp; But there's a lot (a whole lot) to be said for also playing the game as it is, and exploring what it can do *without* changes.&nbsp; The neverending, &quot;I want it to have this exact feature I have in my head,&quot; gets in the way of exploring the features it does have.&nbsp;&nbsp; All too often we do not take the time to really fully experience understand what we have, before we decide it has to be changed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6470165, member: 177"] Irrelevant to the point. The game has only just been published in what amounts to a complete form. If you really want to count back to the MM, that only adds a couple of months. Still not enough time for people with jobs and families and obligations to have played the game in fullness. "X will be X" does not actually excuse undesirable behavior. All it tells you is that the state of being X ought to be examined, which I had effectively pointed out anyway. This is not to say the books are above critique, or that one can't note stuff they'd like. But there's a lot (a whole lot) to be said for also playing the game as it is, and exploring what it can do *without* changes. The neverending, "I want it to have this exact feature I have in my head," gets in the way of exploring the features it does have. All too often we do not take the time to really fully experience understand what we have, before we decide it has to be changed. [/QUOTE]

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