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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Salamandyr" data-source="post: 7128649" data-attributes="member: 40233">I didn't say the numbers weren't bigger, I said they weren't actually putting out more damage...because in all that damage they are doing, they are matching it against correspondingly larger numbers of hit points.  The disparity gets even larger as you go up in level, with mooks sporting 100 and more hit points eventually, and no way to burn through those points except through repetitive grinding.Sure, 5e parties do their damage in more spectacular ways, lots of lasers flying around; people shapeshifting into animals, dropping the power of the gods on monsters heads, but all of those things don't do as much relative to the toughness of the monsters.  Bigger numbers, bigger damage pillows.</blockquote>