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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 8414262" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>I'm part of the problem for low RPG salaries. At a certain point I won't even look at the book to buy it. I think Ptolus fell into this, even though at the time it originally came out I was a large Monte Cook fan and active on his forums.</p><p></p><p>Also, shipping is part of the equation, but since I can often buy multiple things at once to reduce it I wouldn't consider full shipping price.</p><p></p><p>I'm mostly going to focus on the length, I don't buy adventures. Money in USD.</p><p></p><p>100 page softcover: I spent $10 for N.E.W. in digest format off Amazon (free shipping) without blinking an eye, so that's "volume priced to move" - too low except if you're trying to clear a backlog. $20-$30 depending on how much I want the content. Knock $10 off for PDF-only, or add $10 for bundled with PDF.</p><p></p><p>300 page hardcover: I regularly spend $30-$45 for these on Amazon, and while I only pick up the ones I want, it's not the top of my range. Say $60 as the top, $75 bundled with PDF. That said, I'd probably top off at around $30 for just the PDF and that would give serious second thoughts. Yes, I know that art, editing, layout - all these costs are the same. But there's something visceral about holding a book. BTW, I don't care too much about hardcover vs. softcover for this size. I have my Cortex Prime softcover which is around this size.</p><p></p><p>650 page hardcover. While this is twice the size of the 300 page, I wouldn't page twice as much. $75-80 bucks would be the most I'd spend, and if it's above $60 I'd really have to want the content.</p><p></p><p>Pelegrane Press has a sweet spot for me because they include the PDF and I often buy several things at once to reduce shipping. I don't mind buying directly, assuming it's not just "get the same as Amazon but pay more". In their case the value add is the PDFs, which for me makes adventure prep very easy since I can cut-n-paste. I've also bought their product directly from my FLGS and they've given me the PDF with their Bits-and-Mortar program.</p><p></p><p>Oh, for actual physical play I prefer books, if I'm running or playing online I prefer PDFs. So physically running I want both. That will impact where in the range I'm willing to spend. BUT - history has shown that while I'm willing to pay more for a bundle, I will not ever pay full price for the same content in two different formats - I'm willing to pay some more for convience and the costs that are different, but not double. I actually picked up a 10" Kindle Fire tablet on sale for $55 to dedicate to gaming for when I am physically gaming but have material on PDF, but still prefer actual books.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: I just thought of the <em>biggest</em> indicator in what I am willing to pay for a book - if I think I'll actually get to play it. If it's 5e (because I know a lot of 5e DMs), I'm willing to run it before having bought it, or if a friend is getting a game of it together then the prices above. If not, then <em>way</em> less simply because it's more curiosity than functionality. So for those I often go PDF for the cheaper, but since as mentioned I won't spend full price to repurchse content I already one, I likely will not upgrade to physical product at a later point if the price is near the top of my price points. I'd want to buy the PDF with the option to turn it into a physical bundle at a later point, but no one offers that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 8414262, member: 20564"] I'm part of the problem for low RPG salaries. At a certain point I won't even look at the book to buy it. I think Ptolus fell into this, even though at the time it originally came out I was a large Monte Cook fan and active on his forums. Also, shipping is part of the equation, but since I can often buy multiple things at once to reduce it I wouldn't consider full shipping price. I'm mostly going to focus on the length, I don't buy adventures. Money in USD. 100 page softcover: I spent $10 for N.E.W. in digest format off Amazon (free shipping) without blinking an eye, so that's "volume priced to move" - too low except if you're trying to clear a backlog. $20-$30 depending on how much I want the content. Knock $10 off for PDF-only, or add $10 for bundled with PDF. 300 page hardcover: I regularly spend $30-$45 for these on Amazon, and while I only pick up the ones I want, it's not the top of my range. Say $60 as the top, $75 bundled with PDF. That said, I'd probably top off at around $30 for just the PDF and that would give serious second thoughts. Yes, I know that art, editing, layout - all these costs are the same. But there's something visceral about holding a book. BTW, I don't care too much about hardcover vs. softcover for this size. I have my Cortex Prime softcover which is around this size. 650 page hardcover. While this is twice the size of the 300 page, I wouldn't page twice as much. $75-80 bucks would be the most I'd spend, and if it's above $60 I'd really have to want the content. Pelegrane Press has a sweet spot for me because they include the PDF and I often buy several things at once to reduce shipping. I don't mind buying directly, assuming it's not just "get the same as Amazon but pay more". In their case the value add is the PDFs, which for me makes adventure prep very easy since I can cut-n-paste. I've also bought their product directly from my FLGS and they've given me the PDF with their Bits-and-Mortar program. Oh, for actual physical play I prefer books, if I'm running or playing online I prefer PDFs. So physically running I want both. That will impact where in the range I'm willing to spend. BUT - history has shown that while I'm willing to pay more for a bundle, I will not ever pay full price for the same content in two different formats - I'm willing to pay some more for convience and the costs that are different, but not double. I actually picked up a 10" Kindle Fire tablet on sale for $55 to dedicate to gaming for when I am physically gaming but have material on PDF, but still prefer actual books. EDIT: I just thought of the [I]biggest[/I] indicator in what I am willing to pay for a book - if I think I'll actually get to play it. If it's 5e (because I know a lot of 5e DMs), I'm willing to run it before having bought it, or if a friend is getting a game of it together then the prices above. If not, then [I]way[/I] less simply because it's more curiosity than functionality. So for those I often go PDF for the cheaper, but since as mentioned I won't spend full price to repurchse content I already one, I likely will not upgrade to physical product at a later point if the price is near the top of my price points. I'd want to buy the PDF with the option to turn it into a physical bundle at a later point, but no one offers that. [/QUOTE]
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