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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6237834" data-attributes="member: 92511">What does one need to begin to play this game?1) The Players need to know how to play. This includes, but is not necessarily limited to, the elements of character creation (attributes/classes/races), combat and exploration (and conceivably interaction) rules, basic armor, weaponry and equipment...if skills and/or feats are to be considered part of the &quot;Core&quot; 5e game, then these need to be presented here also.2) The DM needs material on how to run a game. This includes, but is not necessarily limited to, how to adjudicate play, combat/exploration/interaction rules relevant to the DM (which make include but definitely has more than the rules the players have access to), and how to create an adventure (including use of traps, illusions &amp; magics not available to the players, and monsters).3) A set of dice.Character sheets are nice, but harldy necessary. A couple of blank ones (or pre-gen'd characters?) included as &quot;bonus material&quot; is nice if there's room/money to do so.A beginning adventure, as much a I would say it would be a huge bonus, a whole separate booklet for them isn't necessarily &quot;necessary.&quot; At the very least, an example adventure of only a few pages in the the DMs booklet is a good thing. Otherwise, a separate 16 pager, leaves room for 3 or 4 mini adventures and/or example situations/scenarios for the players, 3 or 4 pages each.The &quot;core red box&quot; should cover up to level 5. Covering more than that only adds complexity and material that adds on the poundage to page count that is prohibitive. Even going to level 5 adds in the 3rd level spells and a slew of higher HD monsters.SO...looking at all of that...the &quot;Red Box&quot; needs:1&nbsp; &quot;Player's Handbook&quot; [since WotC has that trademarked, starter/mini/48 page]...no more than 5 or 6 classes, no more than 5 or 6 races, covering up to level 5.1&nbsp; &quot;Dungeon Master's Guide&quot; [since WotC has that trademarked, starter/mini/48 or 64 page] 1 &quot;Monster Manual&quot; [since WotC has that trademarked, starter/mini/48 or 64 page] with creatures HD &gt;1 through, let's say, 8 with a few (like weaker dragons or giants) up to 10.1 &quot;Primer Spellbook&quot; [48 or 64 pages with all magic spells and effects&nbsp; -depending on the classes presented, but at least clerics and mages- from levels 1-3 and a few level 4 or higher spells/rituals/effects for DM use]1 set of dice.optionally: 1 &quot;Adventure Log&quot; 16 pages of mini-adventures whether that's 3 4-page ones or 2 6-page ones or even just a single 12-page starter.optionally: 1 &quot;Character's Folio&quot; 16 pages, 8 pages of pregen's, 4 blank pages (fighter/mage/cleric/rogue) or however many &quot;core/base&quot; classes there are.1 box...for D&amp;D I would suppose the design must be dominated by the color red...preferably with NEW [evocative] art on the cover...perhaps something involving a dragon...in some place akin to a dungeon...I dunno. They have the big high-paid creative professionals, I'm sure they'll figure something out.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6237834, member: 92511"] What does one need to begin to play this game? 1) The Players need to know how to play. This includes, but is not necessarily limited to, the elements of character creation (attributes/classes/races), combat and exploration (and conceivably interaction) rules, basic armor, weaponry and equipment...if skills and/or feats are to be considered part of the "Core" 5e game, then these need to be presented here also. 2) The DM needs material on how to run a game. This includes, but is not necessarily limited to, how to adjudicate play, combat/exploration/interaction rules relevant to the DM (which make include but definitely has more than the rules the players have access to), and how to create an adventure (including use of traps, illusions & magics not available to the players, and monsters). 3) A set of dice. Character sheets are nice, but harldy necessary. A couple of blank ones (or pre-gen'd characters?) included as "bonus material" is nice if there's room/money to do so. A beginning adventure, as much a I would say it would be a huge bonus, a whole separate booklet for them isn't necessarily "necessary." At the very least, an example adventure of only a few pages in the the DMs booklet is a good thing. Otherwise, a separate 16 pager, leaves room for 3 or 4 mini adventures and/or example situations/scenarios for the players, 3 or 4 pages each. The "core red box" should cover up to level 5. Covering more than that only adds complexity and material that adds on the poundage to page count that is prohibitive. Even going to level 5 adds in the 3rd level spells and a slew of higher HD monsters. SO...looking at all of that...the "Red Box" needs: 1 "Player's Handbook" [since WotC has that trademarked, starter/mini/48 page]...no more than 5 or 6 classes, no more than 5 or 6 races, covering up to level 5. 1 "Dungeon Master's Guide" [since WotC has that trademarked, starter/mini/48 or 64 page] 1 "Monster Manual" [since WotC has that trademarked, starter/mini/48 or 64 page] with creatures HD >1 through, let's say, 8 with a few (like weaker dragons or giants) up to 10. 1 "Primer Spellbook" [48 or 64 pages with all magic spells and effects -depending on the classes presented, but at least clerics and mages- from levels 1-3 and a few level 4 or higher spells/rituals/effects for DM use] 1 set of dice. optionally: 1 "Adventure Log" 16 pages of mini-adventures whether that's 3 4-page ones or 2 6-page ones or even just a single 12-page starter. optionally: 1 "Character's Folio" 16 pages, 8 pages of pregen's, 4 blank pages (fighter/mage/cleric/rogue) or however many "core/base" classes there are. 1 box...for D&D I would suppose the design must be dominated by the color red...preferably with NEW [evocative] art on the cover...perhaps something involving a dragon...in some place akin to a dungeon...I dunno. They have the big high-paid creative professionals, I'm sure they'll figure something out. [/QUOTE]

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