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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 8313855" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>Regarding cosmology, it appears the 5e translation means there is only the Material Plane plus a Shadowfell that functions more like generic "spirit world". This Shadowfell has little or no impact among the living, and is more of an afterthought to technically explain certain spells, like going ethereal, explaining undead, and so on.</p><p></p><p>In the core book of Dark Sun, there is only the Material Plane and nothing else. But a Dark Sun splatbook offered a cosmology that added the Black and the Gray.</p><p></p><p>• The Black was the Plane of Shadow, which in 2e was a source for illusion magic, but no longer exists.</p><p>• The Gray is a Plane for the spirits of the dead.</p><p></p><p>Via 4e, both of these concepts have merged together into the Plane of Shadowfell.</p><p></p><p>For 5e, there is only the Shadowfell, tho perhaps the Gray refers to areas of that ghosts inhabit, while the Black refers to areas of Shadowfell that are outer wilderness.</p><p></p><p>I prefer the Astral Plane simply doesnt exist. There is no Astral Plane. Any spells or magic that mention astral or ethereal, instead involve the Shadowfell.</p><p></p><p>According to the Dark Sun splatbook, Clerics could engage the Elemental Planes via the Shadowfell/Gray, but it was extremely difficult to do so. This contradicts the corebook, where Clerics normally interact with elementals.</p><p></p><p>For this and other considerations. I prefer the Elemental Planes simply lack existence too.</p><p></p><p>So. Elemental creatures are spirits in the Material Plane, such as Fire Elementals animating volcanic lava or even a fireplace, Air Elementals animating upper atmosphere, Water Elementals in precious water reservoirs, and Earth Elementals almost anywhere that is less defiled, but usually in difficult to access wilderness.</p><p></p><p>In sum, the default is only the Material Plane, plus an all-purpose spirit world, in case any spells seem to require one.</p><p></p><p>The default is. There is no such thing as the Forgotten Realms multiverse. But there can be an option for FR enthusiasts to opt in to plug Dark Sun into the Forgotten Realms setting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 8313855, member: 58172"] Regarding cosmology, it appears the 5e translation means there is only the Material Plane plus a Shadowfell that functions more like generic "spirit world". This Shadowfell has little or no impact among the living, and is more of an afterthought to technically explain certain spells, like going ethereal, explaining undead, and so on. In the core book of Dark Sun, there is only the Material Plane and nothing else. But a Dark Sun splatbook offered a cosmology that added the Black and the Gray. • The Black was the Plane of Shadow, which in 2e was a source for illusion magic, but no longer exists. • The Gray is a Plane for the spirits of the dead. Via 4e, both of these concepts have merged together into the Plane of Shadowfell. For 5e, there is only the Shadowfell, tho perhaps the Gray refers to areas of that ghosts inhabit, while the Black refers to areas of Shadowfell that are outer wilderness. I prefer the Astral Plane simply doesnt exist. There is no Astral Plane. Any spells or magic that mention astral or ethereal, instead involve the Shadowfell. According to the Dark Sun splatbook, Clerics could engage the Elemental Planes via the Shadowfell/Gray, but it was extremely difficult to do so. This contradicts the corebook, where Clerics normally interact with elementals. For this and other considerations. I prefer the Elemental Planes simply lack existence too. So. Elemental creatures are spirits in the Material Plane, such as Fire Elementals animating volcanic lava or even a fireplace, Air Elementals animating upper atmosphere, Water Elementals in precious water reservoirs, and Earth Elementals almost anywhere that is less defiled, but usually in difficult to access wilderness. In sum, the default is only the Material Plane, plus an all-purpose spirit world, in case any spells seem to require one. The default is. There is no such thing as the Forgotten Realms multiverse. But there can be an option for FR enthusiasts to opt in to plug Dark Sun into the Forgotten Realms setting. [/QUOTE]
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