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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8320565" data-attributes="member: 6796468"><p>I went back to look into Gulg and I am way wrong...</p><p></p><p>I remembered that story from a campaign I was in when I was around 14ish, but apparently it was just the DM's personal story for Gulg. According to the Revised setting, Lalali-Puy is -actively- working to keep the Forest alive, even against Nibenay directly. Because even though she's a Defiler of the highest order, she's learned to restrain her temptation for power and specifically ensure the survival of the Crescent Forest...</p><p></p><p>She's not doing it out of altruistic purposes, though. Her intention is to -become- the Oba. The forest goddess of Athas. To encourage preserving and preservers for the express intent of restoring the world over thousands upon thousands of years so she can be worshipped as a god across the entire world.</p><p></p><p>That has to do with alignment being Descriptive rather than Proscriptive.</p><p></p><p>Actions are only good or evil in relation to people and our perceptions. Alignments describe people based on the goodness and evilness of their actions. That's why characters can change sides (and alignments).</p><p></p><p>Yaarel, what you want isn't Dark Sun. What you want is a new setting where the default starting locale is a super advanced awesome city made up of clerics, psionicists, and preserving wizards, a whole new cosmology, and an entirely different structure of arcane, divine, primal, and psionics that overlap drastically because you want to unify things.</p><p></p><p>What you want is a setting that appeals to you, and since Dark Sun doesn't (Which you have explicitly stated) you want to completely redesign it to be something it isn't to make it for you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 8320565, member: 6796468"] I went back to look into Gulg and I am way wrong... I remembered that story from a campaign I was in when I was around 14ish, but apparently it was just the DM's personal story for Gulg. According to the Revised setting, Lalali-Puy is -actively- working to keep the Forest alive, even against Nibenay directly. Because even though she's a Defiler of the highest order, she's learned to restrain her temptation for power and specifically ensure the survival of the Crescent Forest... She's not doing it out of altruistic purposes, though. Her intention is to -become- the Oba. The forest goddess of Athas. To encourage preserving and preservers for the express intent of restoring the world over thousands upon thousands of years so she can be worshipped as a god across the entire world. That has to do with alignment being Descriptive rather than Proscriptive. Actions are only good or evil in relation to people and our perceptions. Alignments describe people based on the goodness and evilness of their actions. That's why characters can change sides (and alignments). Yaarel, what you want isn't Dark Sun. What you want is a new setting where the default starting locale is a super advanced awesome city made up of clerics, psionicists, and preserving wizards, a whole new cosmology, and an entirely different structure of arcane, divine, primal, and psionics that overlap drastically because you want to unify things. What you want is a setting that appeals to you, and since Dark Sun doesn't (Which you have explicitly stated) you want to completely redesign it to be something it isn't to make it for you. [/QUOTE]
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