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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8320841" data-attributes="member: 6796468">There is no such force, which I acknowledge in a later post in which I specifically talk about Oronis becoming an Avangion and expand on the idea of him being on that path and her kind of stepping onto it as an interesting direction for the story to go.Not specifically sexual. But graphic. Specifically my mind went to the Tzimisce of Vampire the Masquerade and how they'd shape bone and flesh and stuff and the various grotesqueries tied to it. Hope is always on the card in Dark Sun. The first story sees the end of Kalak, the oppressive Sorcerer-King of Tyr mid-transformation into a Dragon like Borys. Slaves from across Athas make their way to the Free City when/if they can escape and survive the Crimson Sands. And the city itself is a burgeoning democracy. There's tons of hope!I've even played in a "Gonzo Campaign" where we literally went across Athas at level 20+ fighting and killing Sorcerer Kings as the whole campaign Narrative. Just one after the other after the other, rallying their people and their enemies and bringing them down. It was fun.I'm not opposed to adding stuff to Athas. Or changing things. But once you try and erase the postapocalyptica, the swords and sorcery, the evil defiling... It's less and less Dark Sun. Like Ravenloft without the Horror.</blockquote>