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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8311273" data-attributes="member: 22779">Not really.  Not in the books they didn't.  They were the abominations created by perverting good dragon eggs.  They had no natural elements at all.  They were essentially demons, perverted and without any redeeming quality.  They didn't build, they only destroyed.  Thoroughly evil.  And no, they don't have the problematic concerns that orcs have because draconians were never described using the same language as various real world minorities have been described.  There was never any connection to being ape like or even animal like at all.  Well, reptilian I suppose, but, even then, not really.So, no, they had any of the problematic concerns that you would associate with orcs.  They were basically constructs.  If people have been playing them for 20 years, that's because they went back and retconned Draconians to allow for "good" draconians.  It's a change that I never agreed with and thought it was a serious mistake that just waters down the setting.Remember, this is a setting that has no devils.  At least, it didn't before they retconned that in too.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />  Draconians played that role in the game - the thing you can kill without any moral quandary, same as demons or devils.  They were Evil, without any redeeming quality.  Fantastic for a high fantasy setting which focuses on the whole good vs evil thing.Making draconians into dragonborn dilutes the setting and is, in my opinion, which I know right now I'm going to get shouted down here, a serious mistake.</blockquote>

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