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What would you want in a book of naval rules?
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<blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5813683" data-attributes="member: 54877"><p>@<u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=8835" target="_blank">Janx</a></u> , for earlier ships, you might want to check out that "Greek and Roman Naval Warfare" book I mentioned earlier. The author was a retired admiral who wrote the book in the 1930s or 40s, with some of the same kind of information that you are talking about, heavily based on the work of an earlier French naval official who had supported some reproduction work to determine what actually worked and why.</p><p> </p><p>Edit: Guess I should summarize for those that don't want to read that book, though I don't have the book handy, so can't give exact numbers. Basically, for oared ships, you have similar ratio issues between length, weight of the ship, width of the ship, etc. And the upshot is that the more people you put on an oar, the more power you can cram into a given space. However, each person on an oar provides diminishing returns, because they are increasingly in a non-optimal position to extert maximum sweep on the oar. </p><p> </p><p>The Romans, being forced into naval matters by the Carthagians, and of an engineering mindset, experimented heavily. The Greek colonies, especially at Syracuse, did likewise. The upshot was that 3 to 5 people per oar was found to be best, moving closer to the upper number the more warlike the vessel becomes (i.e. prioritizing speed and maneuverability over cargo space). </p><p> </p><p>Much later, the Venetians had some success with different arrangements with as many as 10 people per oar, albeit for much larger ships, designed for different reasons (mount large weapons to smash Turkish ships)--but these, much like a phalanx on land, need a host of smaller ships to protect their flanks. The Battle of Lepanto is the culmination of this technology.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crazy Jerome, post: 5813683, member: 54877"] @[U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=8835"]Janx[/URL][/U] , for earlier ships, you might want to check out that "Greek and Roman Naval Warfare" book I mentioned earlier. The author was a retired admiral who wrote the book in the 1930s or 40s, with some of the same kind of information that you are talking about, heavily based on the work of an earlier French naval official who had supported some reproduction work to determine what actually worked and why. Edit: Guess I should summarize for those that don't want to read that book, though I don't have the book handy, so can't give exact numbers. Basically, for oared ships, you have similar ratio issues between length, weight of the ship, width of the ship, etc. And the upshot is that the more people you put on an oar, the more power you can cram into a given space. However, each person on an oar provides diminishing returns, because they are increasingly in a non-optimal position to extert maximum sweep on the oar. The Romans, being forced into naval matters by the Carthagians, and of an engineering mindset, experimented heavily. The Greek colonies, especially at Syracuse, did likewise. The upshot was that 3 to 5 people per oar was found to be best, moving closer to the upper number the more warlike the vessel becomes (i.e. prioritizing speed and maneuverability over cargo space). Much later, the Venetians had some success with different arrangements with as many as 10 people per oar, albeit for much larger ships, designed for different reasons (mount large weapons to smash Turkish ships)--but these, much like a phalanx on land, need a host of smaller ships to protect their flanks. The Battle of Lepanto is the culmination of this technology. [/QUOTE]
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