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<blockquote data-quote="evolved" data-source="post: 2711103" data-attributes="member: 17368"><p>The problem an epic system needs to adress is not the maximum amount of levels</p><p>it is what happens when that maximum is breached</p><p></p><p>if your world has characters of level 30 but none higher then someone who becomes 31 is epic</p><p></p><p>if the max is 99 then 100 is epic</p><p></p><p>if the max is 100 than epic is 101</p><p></p><p>expanding the limit doesn't address the issue of epic</p><p></p><p>epic is hard because it is by nature outside the normal sphere of DnD</p><p></p><p>I understand what wotc was trying to do, make a fair balanced open ended system that covers everyone, not their best work</p><p></p><p>but most of it is usable</p><p></p><p>the trick is what parts need to be scrapped</p><p></p><p>proposal</p><p></p><p>ditch epic spells</p><p>and powers</p><p>lose epic progressions to save and attack rolls</p><p>most epic PrC's (many just feel wrong)</p><p>price bump for epic items</p><p></p><p>keep</p><p>epic feats</p><p>epic progressions for normal classes</p><p></p><p>change</p><p>use normal save and bab progressions in epic</p><p>give remaining epic PrC's bab and save ratings</p><p></p><p></p><p>what are the obvious problems with this set up</p><p>well a 25 level rouge has crap fortitude</p><p>so what its a rouge</p><p>just because your high level shouldn't mean all of a sudden your class has a different focus</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="evolved, post: 2711103, member: 17368"] The problem an epic system needs to adress is not the maximum amount of levels it is what happens when that maximum is breached if your world has characters of level 30 but none higher then someone who becomes 31 is epic if the max is 99 then 100 is epic if the max is 100 than epic is 101 expanding the limit doesn't address the issue of epic epic is hard because it is by nature outside the normal sphere of DnD I understand what wotc was trying to do, make a fair balanced open ended system that covers everyone, not their best work but most of it is usable the trick is what parts need to be scrapped proposal ditch epic spells and powers lose epic progressions to save and attack rolls most epic PrC's (many just feel wrong) price bump for epic items keep epic feats epic progressions for normal classes change use normal save and bab progressions in epic give remaining epic PrC's bab and save ratings what are the obvious problems with this set up well a 25 level rouge has crap fortitude so what its a rouge just because your high level shouldn't mean all of a sudden your class has a different focus [/QUOTE]
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