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Message: <blockquote data-quote="squibbles" data-source="post: 8419842" data-attributes="member: 6937590">Wait... what? Please elaborate.I'm not confident I followed the entirety of this paragraph, but responding to the last point, there are lots of ways an impoverished peasant could do a wizard apprenticeship (provided he/she isn't an unfree peasant). Not least is via the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apprenticeship#History" target="_blank">historical way that medieval people entered skilled trades</a>. An apprentice (or his/her parents) signs an indenture to a master craftperson and then owes that person several years (often 7) of obedient labor in exchange for room, board, and on the job training. But, you know, being a wizard could also be as banal as joining the artillery division of a national army--in wartime, the wizardly training programs might not really be turning people away.edit; it seems [USER=6704184]@doctorbadwolf[/USER] has already made this point, sorry to dogpile.Well, a society that persecutes wizards would tend to change the dynamic too--few wealthy elites in good standing would want to damage the family reputation by having their children trained in the black arts. It could instead be disproportionately poorer people inducted into the profession in that case, with sketchy wizards abducting children to be their apprentices (read unpaid laborers).You're right that my reply regarding power hunger is less true of earlier editions--when wizards couldn't say "psssh, 2 spells this level is enough, I'm already miles ahead of that dopey sorcerer".But is actively seeking arcane power to grow really all that strange of a motivation? Improvement in most disciplines is effortful--you probably wouldn't consider a lawyer law-hungry for wanting to read new legal opinions and journal articles, for example. A wizard wanting to learn new spells could be equally relatable (even if player murder-hobo-ism rendered that uncommon in practice).</blockquote>

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