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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 8420052" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>The problem is overlap. That is, if a wizard is assumed to be a specialist in necromancy, in divination, in conjuration, etc., It's assumed they would have access to the best spells for that school. They would have important key spells at low level and the most powerful specialty spells at high level. This creates two problems: 1.) The wizard spell list inflates to give eight specialists worth of magic to use, and 2.) The wizard as built gets access to all spells on the wizard's list, meaning you can pick up the signature spells of other specialists at no cost and always have the best spells. </p><p></p><p>In AD&D 1e, magic users and illusionists had separate spell lists and the illusionist had spells the wizard couldn't cast, and vice versa. In 2e, they all got lumped in the "wizard" spell list, meaning a mage (nonspecialist) could choose freely from both lists and pick the best of both classes. In 5e, there are very few spells that sorcerer, bard, or warlock exclusively get because the magic they tend to use (charms, blasting, creepy) are also the domain of enchanter, evoker, and necromancer wizards. So the wizard gets the best of all classes, excluding a few signature spells like eldritch blast, chaos bolt or viscous mockery.</p><p></p><p>(I should note here bards being able to heal is an aberration to this discussion: bards are unique that they are the only "arcane" class with healing magic. While this isn't a role the wizard can step into, it's hardly unique with the cleric and druid both being healers. Focusing on the non healing magic of the bard shows they aren't doing much more than a enchantment or illusions focused wizard can do.)</p><p></p><p>I'm looking to make it that the other arcane casters aren't runner-ups to their own types of magic because the wizard has to be good at everything. Wizards are too versatile, and I'd like to see greater balance placed between casters by breaking up the wizard's role as default specialist.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 8420052, member: 7635"] The problem is overlap. That is, if a wizard is assumed to be a specialist in necromancy, in divination, in conjuration, etc., It's assumed they would have access to the best spells for that school. They would have important key spells at low level and the most powerful specialty spells at high level. This creates two problems: 1.) The wizard spell list inflates to give eight specialists worth of magic to use, and 2.) The wizard as built gets access to all spells on the wizard's list, meaning you can pick up the signature spells of other specialists at no cost and always have the best spells. In AD&D 1e, magic users and illusionists had separate spell lists and the illusionist had spells the wizard couldn't cast, and vice versa. In 2e, they all got lumped in the "wizard" spell list, meaning a mage (nonspecialist) could choose freely from both lists and pick the best of both classes. In 5e, there are very few spells that sorcerer, bard, or warlock exclusively get because the magic they tend to use (charms, blasting, creepy) are also the domain of enchanter, evoker, and necromancer wizards. So the wizard gets the best of all classes, excluding a few signature spells like eldritch blast, chaos bolt or viscous mockery. (I should note here bards being able to heal is an aberration to this discussion: bards are unique that they are the only "arcane" class with healing magic. While this isn't a role the wizard can step into, it's hardly unique with the cleric and druid both being healers. Focusing on the non healing magic of the bard shows they aren't doing much more than a enchantment or illusions focused wizard can do.) I'm looking to make it that the other arcane casters aren't runner-ups to their own types of magic because the wizard has to be good at everything. Wizards are too versatile, and I'd like to see greater balance placed between casters by breaking up the wizard's role as default specialist. [/QUOTE]
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