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<blockquote data-quote="Zak S" data-source="post: 7734963" data-attributes="member: 90370"><p>Unless you're claiming that Evil Hat has less money than LotFP at any given moment, what's the point here? </p><p></p><p>And if they <em>do</em> have less money, then you're simply saying that Evil Hat's freelancers are paying the price for Evil Hat's mismanagement of their business. They sell a zillion more copies and have been around longer yet somehow have less cash?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's not a<strong> risk </strong>of how LotFP royalties work, <strong>that is how the royalty deals work on purpose: LotFP pays a flat fee equal or greater than Evil Hat or Green Ronin and then pays royalties on top of that.</strong></p><p></p><p>And yet STILL they produce books with more money invested into the art writing binding printing etc than Evil Hat and Green Ronin.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1. Both of those things happen all the time. Vornheim and Maze of the Blue Medusa and Veins of the Earth happened the first way, Red & Pleasant Land, Frostbitten and Mutilated and many other products happened the second way.</p><p></p><p>2. Your whole point was that "paying for development" meant something other than "paying the artists and writers to make a thing" and that isn't true at all. The whole process you just described is "paying artists and writers to make a thing"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>EVil Hat& Green Ronin make more money than Lotfp.</p><p></p><p>Evil Hat & Green Ronin spend less money on the writing and art and binding, printing, etc than LotFP.</p><p></p><p>(If not, where is any evidence of this? When have any of their books matched the indestructible gold-embossed clothbound extravaganzas LotFP put out?)</p><p></p><p>So there is money they are pocketing that LotFP isn't. Call it "extra" or whatever you like.</p><p></p><p>It's money they could use to make the products better for customers and fairer to their creators that they do not use for that purpose.</p><p></p><p>There's nothing wrong with any of this if:</p><p></p><p>1. consumers are ok with product that is less well-produced than the publisher can afford and</p><p></p><p>2. if the creators are ok with being paid less than they could be and </p><p></p><p>3. if both are ok with the results of what underpaid freelancers are pumping out for (literally in terms of US cost-of-living) poverty-line wages at per-word rates guaranteed to make them want to express every idea in the least efficient way possible using the most words in order to either line the pockets of the publisher or be spent on some mysterious business expense that shows nowhere in the finished product </p><p></p><p>...but I bet lots of people aren't ok with that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zak S, post: 7734963, member: 90370"] Unless you're claiming that Evil Hat has less money than LotFP at any given moment, what's the point here? And if they [I]do[/I] have less money, then you're simply saying that Evil Hat's freelancers are paying the price for Evil Hat's mismanagement of their business. They sell a zillion more copies and have been around longer yet somehow have less cash? That's not a[B] risk [/B]of how LotFP royalties work, [B]that is how the royalty deals work on purpose: LotFP pays a flat fee equal or greater than Evil Hat or Green Ronin and then pays royalties on top of that.[/B] And yet STILL they produce books with more money invested into the art writing binding printing etc than Evil Hat and Green Ronin. 1. Both of those things happen all the time. Vornheim and Maze of the Blue Medusa and Veins of the Earth happened the first way, Red & Pleasant Land, Frostbitten and Mutilated and many other products happened the second way. 2. Your whole point was that "paying for development" meant something other than "paying the artists and writers to make a thing" and that isn't true at all. The whole process you just described is "paying artists and writers to make a thing" EVil Hat& Green Ronin make more money than Lotfp. Evil Hat & Green Ronin spend less money on the writing and art and binding, printing, etc than LotFP. (If not, where is any evidence of this? When have any of their books matched the indestructible gold-embossed clothbound extravaganzas LotFP put out?) So there is money they are pocketing that LotFP isn't. Call it "extra" or whatever you like. It's money they could use to make the products better for customers and fairer to their creators that they do not use for that purpose. There's nothing wrong with any of this if: 1. consumers are ok with product that is less well-produced than the publisher can afford and 2. if the creators are ok with being paid less than they could be and 3. if both are ok with the results of what underpaid freelancers are pumping out for (literally in terms of US cost-of-living) poverty-line wages at per-word rates guaranteed to make them want to express every idea in the least efficient way possible using the most words in order to either line the pockets of the publisher or be spent on some mysterious business expense that shows nowhere in the finished product ...but I bet lots of people aren't ok with that. [/QUOTE]
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