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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steve Conan Trustrum" data-source="post: 7734986" data-attributes="member: 1620">Remember when I said you were stuck in a realm of binaries because your examples of business operations only present two possiblities?My point is that businesses of different scales of operations have different realties governing how they run. These logistical and financial facts are the things you attribute to ethics, waste, hoarding, etc.See my previous post about a company that is stuck between two sets of goalposts, for example.First off, the idea that publishers can't earn more than their freelancers without being unethical is a false narrative. If I, as a publisher, pay a fantastic flat fee but don't end up making much (as in I don't pull in as much as if I had paid myself as a writer at my offered writer rates) I'm an ethical publisher, but if I pay that same fantastic flat fee but the product ends up taking off to the point that I make triple what my fantastic flat fee was, I'm now unethical?My point would be to pay as much as you can while still keeping the business sustainable. If your pay rate to freelancers is such that it begins to cause the publisher to treat itself unfairly (e.g., it has to pass on opportunities), that is itself a problem. But your stance hasn't addressed that, and when I've brought it up you've not responded to it beyond saying that reaching for those opportunities or maintaining sustainability, at a cost to the freelancer that typically also comes at a cost and a risk to the publisher, is therefore unethical or mismanagement.</blockquote>

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