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<blockquote data-quote="MechaPilot" data-source="post: 6613228" data-attributes="member: 82779">Well, I didn't mean magi-tech security cameras (although, a simple scrying pool that can only peep at the insides of the dungeon would probably work as well); I just meant some way of monitoring what's going on.&nbsp; It could be stealthy minions that report back to the PCs, or the PCs could have secret tunnels with concealed observation ports.&nbsp; Aside from magic, I don't see any monitoring option beyond those two.I think that a slow transformation works better for creating horror, but it's all a matter of execution.&nbsp; If you don't mean for the transformation to be gruesome, and the monster race that is the outcome isn't particularly gruesome, I could see that working.&nbsp; If a person is being slowly turned into an aberration or an ooze though, it's going to be hard to play down that horror (although it will be a little easier than normal because it's not happening to one of the PCs, so you don't have to describe the day-by-day, week-by-week changes).Regarding the oppression, that's being rather generous.&nbsp; I could easily see a &quot;kill and burn them&quot; reaction under two different situations:1. There is no strong government to prevent such a thing.&nbsp; Any prevention would likely take place through internment of the changed instead of simple prosecution of offenders (Internment would also likely involve throwing people out of ghettos and walling in the changed, or throwing the changed out of town while building an internment camp for them).2. The government considers the changed to be a plague-like threat and backs the general public's &quot;kill and burn them&quot; sentiment.I agree on both counts.There are plenty of races who are monstrous in the sense of being the ugly fantasy version of rubber-mask-aliens: orcs, goblins, kobolds, hobgoblins, bugbears, etc.&nbsp; They would make for good potential allies.As for needing some elements of the &quot;monster party&quot; game, it seems inevitable.&nbsp; Unless the monsters can burrow, they are probably not making their own dungeons without adventuring for wealth, or so they can kidnap slaves to do the work for them.&nbsp; They'd also probably have to go out as the &quot;monster party&quot; on occasion so that word could spread of their existence and of the wealth in their lair.&nbsp; At the very least, they may have to haul dead adventurer bodies back to the outskirts of the nearest village or town so the rumors can circulate.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MechaPilot, post: 6613228, member: 82779"] Well, I didn't mean magi-tech security cameras (although, a simple scrying pool that can only peep at the insides of the dungeon would probably work as well); I just meant some way of monitoring what's going on. It could be stealthy minions that report back to the PCs, or the PCs could have secret tunnels with concealed observation ports. Aside from magic, I don't see any monitoring option beyond those two. I think that a slow transformation works better for creating horror, but it's all a matter of execution. If you don't mean for the transformation to be gruesome, and the monster race that is the outcome isn't particularly gruesome, I could see that working. If a person is being slowly turned into an aberration or an ooze though, it's going to be hard to play down that horror (although it will be a little easier than normal because it's not happening to one of the PCs, so you don't have to describe the day-by-day, week-by-week changes). Regarding the oppression, that's being rather generous. I could easily see a "kill and burn them" reaction under two different situations: 1. There is no strong government to prevent such a thing. Any prevention would likely take place through internment of the changed instead of simple prosecution of offenders (Internment would also likely involve throwing people out of ghettos and walling in the changed, or throwing the changed out of town while building an internment camp for them). 2. The government considers the changed to be a plague-like threat and backs the general public's "kill and burn them" sentiment. I agree on both counts. There are plenty of races who are monstrous in the sense of being the ugly fantasy version of rubber-mask-aliens: orcs, goblins, kobolds, hobgoblins, bugbears, etc. They would make for good potential allies. As for needing some elements of the "monster party" game, it seems inevitable. Unless the monsters can burrow, they are probably not making their own dungeons without adventuring for wealth, or so they can kidnap slaves to do the work for them. They'd also probably have to go out as the "monster party" on occasion so that word could spread of their existence and of the wealth in their lair. At the very least, they may have to haul dead adventurer bodies back to the outskirts of the nearest village or town so the rumors can circulate. [/QUOTE]

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