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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6762327" data-attributes="member: 996">That's really more a matter of play style.  You could always insist on going into each new challenge fully ready - there was just a tension built in between the amount of 'resting' you'd need to do that and the plausibility of doing so.  A 3.x WoCLW/LV could require spending a few minutes between combats getting healed up, longer than casting a higher level cure spell to heal the same amount, but much, much faster than recovering a new slate of cure spells overnight to do so. That was one dynamic that developed in 3e that had not been the case before or since.  You could heal in combat, but you wanted it to be a big, useful heal, and that was situational, and cost a very powerful/limited resource (one of your higher level slots) - but you also had a much cheaper resource more plentiful resource that was readily useable out of combat but wouldn't do much in combat.  Prior to 3e, that spell resource was about the only practical way to heal, so you might as well do it in combat when it'd do some good.  After 3e, there are more-limited, player resources (surges/HD) available for a short rest, but they're not trivial the way the WoCLW/LV quickly became as you leveled./Not/ healing (with spells) was central to CoDzilla.  In the past, Cleric had been an unpopular class in large part because of the 'heal-bot' rut it'd tend to get into.  3e tried to address that by making healing a lot more plentiful, and it worked:  too well, you got CoDzilla.  Instead of sometimes being able to pop off with spellcasting to rival the wizard or occasionally self-buff to rival the fighter, CoDzilla could devote all it's spells to doing either or both systematically.   All classes had secondary roles, from the beginning.  Some builds emphasized them more dramatically than others, or emphasized one or another of two possible secondary roles, but they were a clear part of the design philosophy, and give the lie to the idea that classes were 'shoehorned' into a role 'box' or grid-filling source/role.  Source and Role had always been in the game, just informally, and closely linked to eachother along with 'niche protection' to give each class a very specific contribution to the party. Maybe, if that design was early in development.  More likely it was picked back up with Essentials which actually did give different sub-classes different primary roles - including the Druid, which was a controller in 4e, but also became a Leader in Essentials.</blockquote>

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