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<blockquote data-quote="Dozen" data-source="post: 6047429" data-attributes="member: 6698275"><p>1; The class abilities, definitely. The Paizo guys were so desperate to fix the broken classes, they sometimes overshot. You can't really blame them, though; it is clear by now that 3.x gained sentience, decided it doesn't want to be fixed and resists all attempts with unearthly vigor. The only consistent advice I can give is: Keep an eye on those full Arcane casters. They grew little more nasty, just enough to suprise you on the occassion after years spent as a 3.5 DM.</p><p></p><p>It's an entirely other matter if you allow 3rd party material. The classes from other publishers are mixture of the best of ideas and impressive creativity with such a baffling level of complete, utter jacksh*t it would Overwhelm a Demigod if he cast Detect Chaos on it. Like the Artificer which can unbalance a campaign more than a 3.5 one and refers to rounding up as "natural" - whereas that's the first instance you need to round upwards I've ever seen - , or the Warlock, a thinly disguised, flavorless Sorcerer ripoff with limitations the D&D version couldn't help but laugh at. They are not broken, per se, but not thought through, so watch out, just in case.</p><p></p><p>2; A rather odd question, and I'm not sure if I understand correctly. You want to find the <strong>hardest, most mentally challenging </strong>way to abuse Pathfinder rules? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite5" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused:" /> You expect your players to find the best loopholes on their first try? Who are you DMing for? Dandu?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dozen, post: 6047429, member: 6698275"] 1; The class abilities, definitely. The Paizo guys were so desperate to fix the broken classes, they sometimes overshot. You can't really blame them, though; it is clear by now that 3.x gained sentience, decided it doesn't want to be fixed and resists all attempts with unearthly vigor. The only consistent advice I can give is: Keep an eye on those full Arcane casters. They grew little more nasty, just enough to suprise you on the occassion after years spent as a 3.5 DM. It's an entirely other matter if you allow 3rd party material. The classes from other publishers are mixture of the best of ideas and impressive creativity with such a baffling level of complete, utter jacksh*t it would Overwhelm a Demigod if he cast Detect Chaos on it. Like the Artificer which can unbalance a campaign more than a 3.5 one and refers to rounding up as "natural" - whereas that's the first instance you need to round upwards I've ever seen - , or the Warlock, a thinly disguised, flavorless Sorcerer ripoff with limitations the D&D version couldn't help but laugh at. They are not broken, per se, but not thought through, so watch out, just in case. 2; A rather odd question, and I'm not sure if I understand correctly. You want to find the [B]hardest, most mentally challenging [/B]way to abuse Pathfinder rules? :confused: You expect your players to find the best loopholes on their first try? Who are you DMing for? Dandu? [/QUOTE]
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