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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6050111" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Not so much. If it's weak in 3.X (i.e. non-caster) it's weak in PF and strong to strong. The tiers are almost exactly the same (there's some play round which tiers fighters, rogues, and bards are in but that's about it).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh please! If the Eidolon is trying to cut into the HTH specialist's role you don't have <em>too </em>much trouble. It becomes a huge problem when the summoner turns their Eidolon into a <em>scout</em>, cutting in to the rogue's role. And then summons d3+1 augmented creatures who can act on the first round of combat every combat (six or more times per day) cutting deeply into the hth specialist's role, and allowing them to save their spells for utility magic.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It always could in 3.X; the Evoker was always weak.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Pedant point: Batman must be a time traveller because <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority" target="_blank">the Comics Code was only formed in 1954</a>. Batman, however, started off as a knock-off of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadow" target="_blank">The Shadow</a>. But was disarmed as part of a moral panic that <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2012/07/gun-laws-and-batman.html" target="_blank">predated the Comics Code by fifteen years</a>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6050111, member: 87792"] Not so much. If it's weak in 3.X (i.e. non-caster) it's weak in PF and strong to strong. The tiers are almost exactly the same (there's some play round which tiers fighters, rogues, and bards are in but that's about it). Oh please! If the Eidolon is trying to cut into the HTH specialist's role you don't have [I]too [/I]much trouble. It becomes a huge problem when the summoner turns their Eidolon into a [I]scout[/I], cutting in to the rogue's role. And then summons d3+1 augmented creatures who can act on the first round of combat every combat (six or more times per day) cutting deeply into the hth specialist's role, and allowing them to save their spells for utility magic. It always could in 3.X; the Evoker was always weak. Pedant point: Batman must be a time traveller because [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority"]the Comics Code was only formed in 1954[/URL]. Batman, however, started off as a knock-off of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadow"]The Shadow[/URL]. But was disarmed as part of a moral panic that [URL="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2012/07/gun-laws-and-batman.html"]predated the Comics Code by fifteen years[/URL]. [/QUOTE]
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