What's heavier, a pound of adamantine or a pound of mithril ?

Trainz

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I need to know how much a pound of adamantine and a pound of mithril is worth in gold pieces.

Thanks !
 
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Trainz said:
What's heavier, a pound of adamantine or a pound of mithril ?

Ok, ok.. I can't resist.. um... they weigh the same! (a pound is a pound is a pound.. unless it's Ezra Pound of course!)

Now on to the question you really meant to ask.. :)

Trainz said:
I need to know how much a pound of adamantine and a pound of mithril is worth in gold pieces.

Thanks !

The value of Adamantine doesn't seem to be listed in the DMG (for instance, a weapon is listed at +3000gp, since this applied to anything from a dagger up to a greatsword)..

Mithril *is* however listed, with a price of +500gp/lb. (DMG, p284). However, bear in mind that the costs listed in this table are probably reflecting the difficulties involved in working the material, hence a static cost for Heavy Armor at 9000gp.

ttyl,
Videssian
 


Mithral is 500 gp per pound, as per the DMG.

The price of adamantine isn't available, but can be roughly derived from the cost of adamantine armor: light armor is +5,000 gp, medium +10,000 gp, and heavy +15,000 gp. (1:2:3). The only light metal armor is the chain shirt, which weighs 25 lbs, which means an adamantine chain shirt costs 200 gp per lb. The average weight of medium metal armor is 33 lbs, which means the adamantine costs 303 gp per lb. And, finally, heavy armor weighs 45 lbs. on the average, and the price is 333 gp per lb.

So, if we take the average of the three values, it turns out to be 278 gp per lb. I'd round it up to 300 gp per lb. for good measure.
 

Videssian said:
Ok, ok.. I can't resist.. um... they weigh the same! (a pound is a pound is a pound.. unless it's Ezra Pound of course!)
Ding Ding Ding !

The value of Adamantine doesn't seem to be listed in the DMG (for instance, a weapon is listed at +3000gp, since this applied to anything from a dagger up to a greatsword)..

Mithril *is* however listed, with a price of +500gp/lb. (DMG, p284). However, bear in mind that the costs listed in this table are probably reflecting the difficulties involved in working the material, hence a static cost for Heavy Armor at 9000gp.
Yeah... I already went through that trainz of thought. Wasn't very conclusive.

Anyone ?
 

Sammael said:
Mithral is 500 gp per pound, as per the DMG.

The price of adamantine isn't available, but can be roughly derived from the cost of adamantine armor: light armor is +5,000 gp, medium +10,000 gp, and heavy +15,000 gp. (1:2:3). The only light metal armor is the chain shirt, which weighs 25 lbs, which means an adamantine chain shirt costs 200 gp per lb. The average weight of medium metal armor is 33 lbs, which means the adamantine costs 303 gp per lb. And, finally, heavy armor weighs 45 lbs. on the average, and the price is 333 gp per lb.

So, if we take the average of the three values, it turns out to be 278 gp per lb. I'd round it up to 300 gp per lb. for good measure.
Doesn't work. Adamantium armor is more expensive than mithral, and mithral is listed at 500 gp / pound.

Why in the life of me they included the /pound price for one and not the other is beyond me.
 

Well, adamantine may be harder to work than mithral (I seem to recall reading that as flavor text somewhere), which would explain the armor cost.
 

Sammael said:
Well, adamantine may be harder to work than mithral (I seem to recall reading that as flavor text somewhere), which would explain the armor cost.
Or just the market. Adamantine is more useful to warriors than mithral, so it would cost more. The ore too. So...

How much for a pound of adamantine ? Captain America needs to know because he wants to pawn his shield.
 
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But wait, according to the DMG, mithral weighs half as much as an equal volume of steel. Adamantine, on the other hand, is the same as steel as far as density goes.

So yeah, you pay 500gp/lb. for mithral, but to make something like a sword out of it, you're buying half the number of pounds that you'd need to if you were just making it out of steel (or adamantine, for that matter), so the cost table for mithral equipment is reflecting that by showing it as cheaper than adamantine. You could still go with Sammael's cocktail-napkin equation of 300gp/lb. for adamantine and successfully argue that it makes sense, if you wanted to.


Or you could just arbitrarily nail adamantine's price at 1000gp/lb., and trust to the fact that someone, somewhere, will be crazy enough to pay that.

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and they'll call that person a player character
ryan
 

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