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What's more powerful - group or single debuffs?
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<blockquote data-quote="rkarnes" data-source="post: 5950001" data-attributes="member: 6694707"><p>I am not sure I understand the question.</p><p></p><p>Is a web spell that effects and area more or less powerful and a web spell that simply effects a single creature? Of course it is! Compare Hold Person to Deep Slumber.</p><p></p><p>But, in general, most spells that have an AoE have a drawback or disadvantage to balance them. Like a limit on hit dice (as deep slumber) or a lesser effect. The thing is, they each fulfill a specific niche.</p><p></p><p>Some spells overcome SR, some spells do not require a save, some spells require touch attacks, and others are practically guaranteed success! There is no blanket statement for balance, and there is no easy generalization that says "Tasha's Hideous Laughter always sucks."</p><p></p><p>(but most the time, it does IMO.)</p><p></p><p>Also, you may notice that most of the single target debuffs are at the lower end of the spectrum, and as you go up in spell levels most of the spells effect a large area or multiple targets. Relatively fewer debuffs exist at the high end.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rkarnes, post: 5950001, member: 6694707"] I am not sure I understand the question. Is a web spell that effects and area more or less powerful and a web spell that simply effects a single creature? Of course it is! Compare Hold Person to Deep Slumber. But, in general, most spells that have an AoE have a drawback or disadvantage to balance them. Like a limit on hit dice (as deep slumber) or a lesser effect. The thing is, they each fulfill a specific niche. Some spells overcome SR, some spells do not require a save, some spells require touch attacks, and others are practically guaranteed success! There is no blanket statement for balance, and there is no easy generalization that says "Tasha's Hideous Laughter always sucks." (but most the time, it does IMO.) Also, you may notice that most of the single target debuffs are at the lower end of the spectrum, and as you go up in spell levels most of the spells effect a large area or multiple targets. Relatively fewer debuffs exist at the high end. [/QUOTE]
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