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<blockquote data-quote="Unsung" data-source="post: 6656538" data-attributes="member: 6781406"><p>The most Cultured answer I could give in this situation might be <em>mu</em> (unask the question). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>...Which is to say there is a distinction, but not a meaningful one. Sentience and thought have inherent value. Whether the owner of the mind in question is machine or organic, intelligence by their definition <em>can't</em> be artificial.</p><p></p><p>Of course, I think it's strongly implicated by our discussion thus far that the majority of Earthers don't feel the same. Human rights are for humans only-- possibly for 'citizens' only, if this future is as bleak as the live organ farming trade would suggest. And they're hardly inalienable. If there is a vogue for mental uploads, then anti-machine bigotry is probably rising.</p><p></p><p>But what if it works the other way, too? If your upload can be resleeved into another body in the event of your death, then what about an upload arranging for the murder of the original, to take their place?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I see other possibilities. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> He could be harboured on the net somewhere, ferried about in digital form to stand in for Poju for those parts of his life he finds onerous. Celebrity appearances, talking to family, etc.</p><p></p><p>But going back to what you actually suggested... The first possibility also brings up the question of how powerful and readily available implants and wearables are. I've got to assume that an entire mental construct takes up a lot of electronic real estate. The second possibility, on the other hand... Uploading is a relatively new technology, from the sound of things. How reliable is the downloading process, then? Would you want to simply have a copy of yourself walking around in the real? If not, what recourse does the upload have to achieving download? For that matter, where does the body in question come from? Volunteers? Cloning vats? Condemned convicts? And what happens if a download goes awry, and the persona is incomplete or corrupted?</p><p></p><p>Food for thought. Personally I say don't worry too much about pinning down backstory or setting details absolutely. Some things can be allowed to emerge during play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Unsung, post: 6656538, member: 6781406"] The most Cultured answer I could give in this situation might be [I]mu[/I] (unask the question). ;) ...Which is to say there is a distinction, but not a meaningful one. Sentience and thought have inherent value. Whether the owner of the mind in question is machine or organic, intelligence by their definition [I]can't[/I] be artificial. Of course, I think it's strongly implicated by our discussion thus far that the majority of Earthers don't feel the same. Human rights are for humans only-- possibly for 'citizens' only, if this future is as bleak as the live organ farming trade would suggest. And they're hardly inalienable. If there is a vogue for mental uploads, then anti-machine bigotry is probably rising. But what if it works the other way, too? If your upload can be resleeved into another body in the event of your death, then what about an upload arranging for the murder of the original, to take their place? I see other possibilities. :) He could be harboured on the net somewhere, ferried about in digital form to stand in for Poju for those parts of his life he finds onerous. Celebrity appearances, talking to family, etc. But going back to what you actually suggested... The first possibility also brings up the question of how powerful and readily available implants and wearables are. I've got to assume that an entire mental construct takes up a lot of electronic real estate. The second possibility, on the other hand... Uploading is a relatively new technology, from the sound of things. How reliable is the downloading process, then? Would you want to simply have a copy of yourself walking around in the real? If not, what recourse does the upload have to achieving download? For that matter, where does the body in question come from? Volunteers? Cloning vats? Condemned convicts? And what happens if a download goes awry, and the persona is incomplete or corrupted? Food for thought. Personally I say don't worry too much about pinning down backstory or setting details absolutely. Some things can be allowed to emerge during play. [/QUOTE]
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