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<blockquote data-quote="herrozerro" data-source="post: 5617409" data-attributes="member: 86211"><p>Grab isnt supposed to be a super attack, its supposed to go along with bull rush as a basic maneuver that allows you to do basic things.</p><p></p><p>On the note of a monster grabbing you and you just stay grabbed:</p><p></p><p>Then that monster wasted an action, if you grab someone and there is no incentive for them to try and escape they you are doing it wrong. now granted I dont understand why you wouldnt try to escape, its only a move action that you will probably not use.</p><p></p><p>Now grab does have it's place, when you want to hold a ranged monster for example or maybe pin a vampire in a spot of bright light. but using it as a constant tactic is dumb unless you are a brawler fighter or have something that keys off of graabbed creatures, i can think of a few monster you dont want to be grabbed by.</p><p></p><p>Now I had a brawler fighter in my group for a bit, and I will tell you it made my life hell, he would run up to the dragon and grab him, and just hold him at range of the party. I'd call that useful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="herrozerro, post: 5617409, member: 86211"] Grab isnt supposed to be a super attack, its supposed to go along with bull rush as a basic maneuver that allows you to do basic things. On the note of a monster grabbing you and you just stay grabbed: Then that monster wasted an action, if you grab someone and there is no incentive for them to try and escape they you are doing it wrong. now granted I dont understand why you wouldnt try to escape, its only a move action that you will probably not use. Now grab does have it's place, when you want to hold a ranged monster for example or maybe pin a vampire in a spot of bright light. but using it as a constant tactic is dumb unless you are a brawler fighter or have something that keys off of graabbed creatures, i can think of a few monster you dont want to be grabbed by. Now I had a brawler fighter in my group for a bit, and I will tell you it made my life hell, he would run up to the dragon and grab him, and just hold him at range of the party. I'd call that useful. [/QUOTE]
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