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<blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 5619042" data-attributes="member: 58416">Looking back at what I said, and giving it some more thought...Personally, when I've DMed a 4E game, I found that I was really unhappy with the math behind skill challenges.&nbsp; I like the concept, but I had to fiddle around with the numbers and ignore most of the advice given in the DMG to get it to work the way I wanted.I then considered my comment about monsters.&nbsp; Of the two games I am involved in, the tougher one seems to be the one in which the DM creates his own material.&nbsp; From speaking with him, I am aware that he uses a method which is quite different from the advice given by the books.&nbsp; He uses the advice in the books as a very very loose guideline; mainly to get a vague idea of a frame, but he then ignores a lot of the other advice.Maybe it's the conventional advice about 4E which conflicts with the group more so than the system at times.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Argyle King, post: 5619042, member: 58416"] Looking back at what I said, and giving it some more thought... Personally, when I've DMed a 4E game, I found that I was really unhappy with the math behind skill challenges. I like the concept, but I had to fiddle around with the numbers and ignore most of the advice given in the DMG to get it to work the way I wanted. I then considered my comment about monsters. Of the two games I am involved in, the tougher one seems to be the one in which the DM creates his own material. From speaking with him, I am aware that he uses a method which is quite different from the advice given by the books. He uses the advice in the books as a very very loose guideline; mainly to get a vague idea of a frame, but he then ignores a lot of the other advice. Maybe it's the conventional advice about 4E which conflicts with the group more so than the system at times. [/QUOTE]

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