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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wlmartin" data-source="post: 5619204" data-attributes="member: 6679380">I really do feel sorry for the D&Ders out there who do not have an open mind enough to explore that D&D 4e is an evolution of the game of Dungeons & Dragons.Yes, it focuses on using Powers that make you feel like you are playing a game of WoW or DDO. I disliked this at first but then appreciated that D&D, WotC and Hasbro aren't in D&D to "do it for the fans" - it has to make money. I have gotten used to the way that D&D uses Powers now and it feels a lot easier than before. Characters in 4e are no longer severely unbalanced. It took us all a long time to get used to Healing Surges instead of normal heals but now it feels more natural. No longer do we have to worry about the Rogue being a 2nd class (pun intended) character because all he is good for doing is finding traps. The wizard doesn't need to hide at the back of the room once his spells have run out.No more Confirm Crits... enuf said.Any game, to survive is going to evolve. Those of us who had to learn a different level of mathematics to figure out THAC0 each round of play in 2nd Ed understand that the key to being a D&Der was knowing ALL of the rules. It wasnt about being a Rules Lawyer, if you didn't know the rules you had a handicap against anyone that did.Now, knowing the rules is still important but it doesn't cripple you if you get stuff wrong because the pre-gen character sheets and character builder take that all away and do it for you. To some D&D is about the rules, the maths and the sheer number crunching of it, to those I say go play something else.To most of us, it is about good Roleplay and fun monster battles. After all if we just wanted to hack + slash, there is WoW, DDO, Warhammer and many other online / offline options to get involved in.A true Roleplayer and D&D fan can take a bunch of tokens, a scribbled map and wonky game table with his friends around and make the game feel like it is actually happening. It wouldn't matter if we had to roll a D20 or a D200 - it isnt the rules we play for, its the ROLES</blockquote>

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