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<blockquote data-quote="WarlockLord" data-source="post: 5619695" data-attributes="member: 40098"><p>Ok, that's just condescending. How is it an evolution of what came before, exactly? It sure as hell seems like I hear more that it's an entirely new game, which, strangely enough, I'd rather not hear when I go to buy books labeled with the name of the old one.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So why am I paying 100 bucks for 4e books if I could just make things up? I'd be really roleplaying, too. Seriously, if I'm going to talk about how I'm a REAL WOLLPWAYA I could just sit around and not use rules and just make things up. Sure, my wizard just blew up a continent, the fighter can randomly fly with his sword, and the cleric usurped his god, but that's OK cuz we're really roleplaying! We don't need any of that stupid rules stuff!</p><p></p><p>I'd also like to ask how 4e supports roleplaying (with the rules only for combat) as opposed to say, 3e (hey look, pact roleplaying penalties! Codes of conduct!) but clearly I'm not a real roleplayer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WarlockLord, post: 5619695, member: 40098"] Ok, that's just condescending. How is it an evolution of what came before, exactly? It sure as hell seems like I hear more that it's an entirely new game, which, strangely enough, I'd rather not hear when I go to buy books labeled with the name of the old one. So why am I paying 100 bucks for 4e books if I could just make things up? I'd be really roleplaying, too. Seriously, if I'm going to talk about how I'm a REAL WOLLPWAYA I could just sit around and not use rules and just make things up. Sure, my wizard just blew up a continent, the fighter can randomly fly with his sword, and the cleric usurped his god, but that's OK cuz we're really roleplaying! We don't need any of that stupid rules stuff! I'd also like to ask how 4e supports roleplaying (with the rules only for combat) as opposed to say, 3e (hey look, pact roleplaying penalties! Codes of conduct!) but clearly I'm not a real roleplayer. [/QUOTE]
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