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What's so Hard About Grappling?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4044648" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Or you're one of umpteen monsters with Improved Grab, in which case you not only skip the AOO, but the touch attack as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, unless you have Improved grab that is. And, as mentioned above, let's not forget the movement part, which draws an AOO. Unless, again, you have improved grab, in which case the victim is pulled into your square and suffers AOO's from all your buddies, but not you. Better hope your buddies don't have improved grab too, 'cos then you're going to bounce the victim around like a ping pong ball, drawing AOO's each time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Don't change in play? Unless, of course you're a raging barbarian, under the effect of any number of buffs to your strength, enlarged, enfeebled, or any number of other modifiers which can affect a grapple check.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, at what point does my constrict damage come into play? Or my rake damage? How many times can a Behir grapple you in a single round? An enhanced Giant Constrictor Snake gains iterative attacks. If it chooses to make an unarmed strike attack, and succeeds, does it now get multiple constrict damages?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I suggest you take a look at the Rules forum and go back a few pages. Pretty much every page there, you will find a multipage thread discussing grapple. Going back for the past several years. That you have no problems with grapple, you should be a snap at giving everyone the answers to their questions. Because the combined wisdom of the posters here at En World previously certainly can't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4044648, member: 22779"] Or you're one of umpteen monsters with Improved Grab, in which case you not only skip the AOO, but the touch attack as well. Again, unless you have Improved grab that is. And, as mentioned above, let's not forget the movement part, which draws an AOO. Unless, again, you have improved grab, in which case the victim is pulled into your square and suffers AOO's from all your buddies, but not you. Better hope your buddies don't have improved grab too, 'cos then you're going to bounce the victim around like a ping pong ball, drawing AOO's each time. Don't change in play? Unless, of course you're a raging barbarian, under the effect of any number of buffs to your strength, enlarged, enfeebled, or any number of other modifiers which can affect a grapple check. Now, at what point does my constrict damage come into play? Or my rake damage? How many times can a Behir grapple you in a single round? An enhanced Giant Constrictor Snake gains iterative attacks. If it chooses to make an unarmed strike attack, and succeeds, does it now get multiple constrict damages? I suggest you take a look at the Rules forum and go back a few pages. Pretty much every page there, you will find a multipage thread discussing grapple. Going back for the past several years. That you have no problems with grapple, you should be a snap at giving everyone the answers to their questions. Because the combined wisdom of the posters here at En World previously certainly can't. [/QUOTE]
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