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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bladesong" data-source="post: 4044784" data-attributes="member: 20800">We made some changes almost from day 1 which I will not get into here, but there are some things in this thread that people mentioned that I will hit on briefly.Something about big dumb opponent catching small agile opponent: we made grapple attacks against Reflex, or a ranged touch attack if you prefer. It should be harder for a big lumbering creature to grab a small agile one, but if it actually does catch it, it should be able to hold onto it. Heroic or no, it is the truth. Then, basically, opposed rolls applied.Damage done to a creature holding a target, added to the held target's chance to break free (equivalent to the hacking on a tentacle which we, obviously, knew should be an element in play).The rules we go by would probably be about a paragraph long and seems to work well, but our attack round is closer to what 4ed appears to be heading towards.</blockquote>