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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jaer" data-source="post: 4046525" data-attributes="member: 57861">Heck, even as a fighter with the feat, it didn't save me last night.  +5 strength mod, +8 from my Battle Stance feat, and a +19 from my AoO, rolled a 17...still got grappled!What makes grapple's difficult: the list of things you can do while grappled.  It doesn't happen often enough for us to have the list memorized, so any grapple that happens results in play needing to be stopped to figure out what the person can and can't do, what needs a grapple check to do it.  Since pulling out a light weapon requires a successful grapple check, once the purple worm grabs me, I have no chance of pulling out a weapon to cut my way out of the gullet.I also dislike how much of a disadvantage it is for a creature to grapple.  BBEG-type beasty has improved grab, and grabs someone up.  They now no longer threaten (no AoOs and cannot attack adjacent creatures), are sneak attackable (no dex, and the chance to hit a friend only applies to missile attacks), and are easier to hit.  Unless then can easily manage with the -20 or have swallow whole, maintaining the grab is pointless.Some creatures seem to be able to constrict (or some other special abilites)the round that they establish the grabble, others seem to have to wait until following rounds to do this.  When a grappler can do it that round, I have been having them grab, use their special, and drop simply because maintaining the grab round after round was more of a pain then helpful.</blockquote>

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