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What's so Hard About Grappling?
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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 4046945" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>Ambiguous. With the -20 IG it is clear the Owlbear can use its other attacks against other opponents but unclear whether it can do so only against other opponents. If it does not use the -20 it is clear it cannot attack other opponents but ambiguous on whether it can continue with its full attack as full attacking with natural weapons is not on the list of actions that can be done in a grapple though iteratives do explicitly provide extra attacks and you can use a natural weapon in place of an attack.</p><p></p><p> Ambiguous. If it can do a full attack with all its natural weapons one of the grapple options is to do a grapple check for damage in place of an attack. It can definitely do the grapple for damage, but whether it can follow up with other claws or must rely solely upon iteratives for extra attacks is not absolutely clear.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If it did the -20 Improved grab I believe it clearly can then grab another PC with its other claw. What it can then do depends on a lot of judgment calls in interpreting the rules. If it must use iteratives in the grapple then it cannot use multiple natural weapon attacks and can only grapple to damage one of them. If it can use full natural weapon attacks in a grapple then it can claw each of them and bite a third opponent if it did the -20 grabs on the two PCs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 4046945, member: 2209"] Ambiguous. With the -20 IG it is clear the Owlbear can use its other attacks against other opponents but unclear whether it can do so only against other opponents. If it does not use the -20 it is clear it cannot attack other opponents but ambiguous on whether it can continue with its full attack as full attacking with natural weapons is not on the list of actions that can be done in a grapple though iteratives do explicitly provide extra attacks and you can use a natural weapon in place of an attack. Ambiguous. If it can do a full attack with all its natural weapons one of the grapple options is to do a grapple check for damage in place of an attack. It can definitely do the grapple for damage, but whether it can follow up with other claws or must rely solely upon iteratives for extra attacks is not absolutely clear. If it did the -20 Improved grab I believe it clearly can then grab another PC with its other claw. What it can then do depends on a lot of judgment calls in interpreting the rules. If it must use iteratives in the grapple then it cannot use multiple natural weapon attacks and can only grapple to damage one of them. If it can use full natural weapon attacks in a grapple then it can claw each of them and bite a third opponent if it did the -20 grabs on the two PCs. [/QUOTE]
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