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<blockquote data-quote="Thunderfoot" data-source="post: 5690075" data-attributes="member: 34175">Yeah, I'm not sure if it was WotC or Hasbro that didn't understand that PDF is not hardcover.&nbsp; The folks at WotC keep saying that Hasbro doesn't run the show, but those meeting notes they used to print showed me otherwise.&nbsp; Not that they micro-managed, but that the had an eye on things...&nbsp; Without being there, it would be hard to speculate who made the decision and why, but hindsight being what it is - it was a bone headed move.That would still fall under 1 &amp; 2 for me, but it's really just mincing words.&nbsp; You're quite right the OGL was somebody's personal target and they were very effective in killing it off for 4E.I'm not sure that the design team had all that much to do with it.&nbsp; Having been there and watching the whole thing at GenCon, it seemed to me like it was kind of dropped in their lap.&nbsp; The presentation was moved once and was an hour late.&nbsp; Then at the &quot;Q&amp;A&quot; (such as it was) it seemed that some of the key questions outside of design were never really discussed, there was even some debate on the release date and the inclusion of the OGL (something they said would be included at GenCon).&nbsp; It seemed like it was as if while they were leaving someone said, &quot;Oh, by the way, while you're at GenCon, make sure you announce the new edition that's being released next year, okay?&nbsp; We'll pack some freebie hand out stuff for you so it will be a smooth announcement.&nbsp; Thanks.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thunderfoot, post: 5690075, member: 34175"] Yeah, I'm not sure if it was WotC or Hasbro that didn't understand that PDF is not hardcover. The folks at WotC keep saying that Hasbro doesn't run the show, but those meeting notes they used to print showed me otherwise. Not that they micro-managed, but that the had an eye on things... Without being there, it would be hard to speculate who made the decision and why, but hindsight being what it is - it was a bone headed move. That would still fall under 1 & 2 for me, but it's really just mincing words. You're quite right the OGL was somebody's personal target and they were very effective in killing it off for 4E. I'm not sure that the design team had all that much to do with it. Having been there and watching the whole thing at GenCon, it seemed to me like it was kind of dropped in their lap. The presentation was moved once and was an hour late. Then at the "Q&A" (such as it was) it seemed that some of the key questions outside of design were never really discussed, there was even some debate on the release date and the inclusion of the OGL (something they said would be included at GenCon). It seemed like it was as if while they were leaving someone said, "Oh, by the way, while you're at GenCon, make sure you announce the new edition that's being released next year, okay? We'll pack some freebie hand out stuff for you so it will be a smooth announcement. Thanks." [/QUOTE]

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