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<blockquote data-quote="apsuman" data-source="post: 255867" data-attributes="member: 1769">Please excuse me for interupting here, but when I started this post I thought I had a salient idea, it might not turn out that way...Sorcerer's have lots of spells per day but few known spells, so there is the very real possiblity that they will know one of the ability boosting spells (cat's grace, endurance, etc.).&nbsp; Now this changes things somewhat IMHO.Since the debates seems to be around DEX vs CON, I came up with a few thoughts.It seemed to me that having the higher score was more important for the attribute that you did not have (or plan to have) the ability boosting spell.&nbsp; The effect is most pronouned when the higher attirute is even and the lower one is one less.I.E.&nbsp; Dex 16, Con 15.Well cats's grace will increase DEX 2,3,4,5, resulting in a +1 to your modifier 50% of the time, and +2 50% of the time.&nbsp; But Endurance would have the ability to provie a +3 bonus 25% of the time it is cast.&nbsp; Yeah but 25% of the imte the bonus is only +1, true but Sorcerer's often have spell slot to spare a second casting.&nbsp; If you cast the spell a second time (only doing so if you only got a +1) then after two castigns you should only have 6.25% change of having only a +1 added to yout bonus.The effect is more pronounced if you can empower (only once) the spell.&nbsp; Empowered ability boosts add, 3,4,6 or 7 to the score.&nbsp; Adding 3,4,6, or 7 to an even score would result in additional bonuses of +1,+2,+3, +3, respectively, for an average increate of +2.25, but adding those same numbers to an odd score increase the bonus by, +2, +2, +3, +4, respectively, an average of +2.75.&nbsp; And if you have the spell slot left to cast a second time, you can improve your chances for that +4 more.Anyway, I feel like I am rambling... and I must go now... I will think about this more... and post back (even if only to apologize).g!&nbsp;3&nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp;&nbsp; 718 19 21 222&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp;&nbsp; 419 20 22 231&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3</blockquote>

[QUOTE="apsuman, post: 255867, member: 1769"] Please excuse me for interupting here, but when I started this post I thought I had a salient idea, it might not turn out that way... Sorcerer's have lots of spells per day but few known spells, so there is the very real possiblity that they will know one of the ability boosting spells (cat's grace, endurance, etc.). Now this changes things somewhat IMHO. Since the debates seems to be around DEX vs CON, I came up with a few thoughts. It seemed to me that having the higher score was more important for the attribute that you did not have (or plan to have) the ability boosting spell. The effect is most pronouned when the higher attirute is even and the lower one is one less. I.E. Dex 16, Con 15. Well cats's grace will increase DEX 2,3,4,5, resulting in a +1 to your modifier 50% of the time, and +2 50% of the time. But Endurance would have the ability to provie a +3 bonus 25% of the time it is cast. Yeah but 25% of the imte the bonus is only +1, true but Sorcerer's often have spell slot to spare a second casting. If you cast the spell a second time (only doing so if you only got a +1) then after two castigns you should only have 6.25% change of having only a +1 added to yout bonus. The effect is more pronounced if you can empower (only once) the spell. Empowered ability boosts add, 3,4,6 or 7 to the score. Adding 3,4,6, or 7 to an even score would result in additional bonuses of +1,+2,+3, +3, respectively, for an average increate of +2.25, but adding those same numbers to an odd score increase the bonus by, +2, +2, +3, +4, respectively, an average of +2.75. And if you have the spell slot left to cast a second time, you can improve your chances for that +4 more. Anyway, I feel like I am rambling... and I must go now... I will think about this more... and post back (even if only to apologize). g! 3 4 6 7 18 19 21 22 2 2 3 4 19 20 22 23 1 2 3 3 [/QUOTE]

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