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<blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 3326358" data-attributes="member: 14506">I think identifying where PA is broken first is the best way to &quot;fix&quot; it. No one can find the best fix without identifying what they are fixing.Here are some power attack combos that in my mind make PA broken:1. Quickened true strike spell2. Wraithstrike spell3. Shock trooper feat4. Leap attack feat5. Frenzied berserker PrC6. The touch attack power from book of nine swords7. Surprise (opponent flat-footed)8. others??? please add themTo me by looking at these it seems that the scaling to however high you want is the problem. If you are playing higher than 10th level the damage is obscene when using any of these combos. So is power attack broken because PA combo with touch attacks and similar abilities? Yes. So again capping the damage in some way is the fix. Either that or fix touch attacks and I think that is a lot more work.I like: -4 to attack for +8 strengthThis automatically scales with the weapon you are using and is fundamentally pretty easy for people to grasp. It puts the power back into power attack.Then improved pa would be:-8 to attack for +16 strength.Prerequisites could be BAB +4 and BAB +8. PA should be able to come at 1st level though so reduce them to +1 and +4.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sadrik, post: 3326358, member: 14506"] I think identifying where PA is broken first is the best way to "fix" it. No one can find the best fix without identifying what they are fixing. Here are some power attack combos that in my mind make PA broken: 1. Quickened true strike spell 2. Wraithstrike spell 3. Shock trooper feat 4. Leap attack feat 5. Frenzied berserker PrC 6. The touch attack power from book of nine swords 7. Surprise (opponent flat-footed) 8. others??? please add them To me by looking at these it seems that the scaling to however high you want is the problem. If you are playing higher than 10th level the damage is obscene when using any of these combos. So is power attack broken because PA combo with touch attacks and similar abilities? Yes. So again capping the damage in some way is the fix. Either that or fix touch attacks and I think that is a lot more work. I like: -4 to attack for +8 strength This automatically scales with the weapon you are using and is fundamentally pretty easy for people to grasp. It puts the power back into power attack. Then improved pa would be: -8 to attack for +16 strength. Prerequisites could be BAB +4 and BAB +8. PA should be able to come at 1st level though so reduce them to +1 and +4. [/QUOTE]

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