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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 6038746" data-attributes="member: 6701124">What I really want is both  "generic mythic history" and "stereotypical demographics" as part of the background.  One of the things that annoyed me a bit about 4e is that it seemed like its mythic history was both very pervasive in the PH and MM, and very at odds with the default setting in the previous editions.    (It's very possible I'm just so used to ignoring the history I don't like in the earlier editions that I'm just seeing through pre-4 colored glasses).    It seems easier to me to add mythic flavor to make something fit my particular campaign than it is to disentangle a creature from its mythic baggage.  And I'd like to be offered some stereo-typical demographics rather than have to infer them.And I want the typical height/length range on the size line! In 2e, just about every monster has an entire page devoted to it, which means about a bit more than half a page of flavor text, all organized in a similar way, and all on the same part of the page.   In 4e the background is certainly there for the monsters you've given excerpts from, but aren't there quite a few with much less detail?   The excerpt about the zombie on Wizards.com has a lot of varieties... but it doesn't strike me as a lot of information about each one -- <a href="https://www.wizards.com/dnd/Product.aspx?x=dnd/products/dndacc/217207200" target="_blank">https://www.wizards.com/dnd/Product.aspx?x=dnd/products/dndacc/217207200</a> .  The stat block and text leave me with a lot of questions and maybe a contradiction or two: How do these Int 1 creatures figure out that exactly one will grab?  Are chillborn created in a different way than normal zombie's?  What gets turned into a zombie hulk?   Why would zombies be working with living things that aren't its creator like skirmisher were-rats?Like farmers and birds?</blockquote>

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