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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 6051532" data-attributes="member: 52734">Sorry, that's quite wrong.Derro has a lot more info than most of the other entries in the book too, somewhat surprisingly:(I think derro and duergar may have been combined in 4E; but firing beard-quills?)* This is deliberate misinformation.  The derro have two gods that are twin brothers (Diirinka and Diinkarazan).  One has been captured and driven mad by the mind flayer god Ilsensine (hence the "found only recently by Mind Flayers" mention); this info had been published years ago in Monster Mythology, but is supposed be on secret level of knowledge on par with that of knowing about Tharizdun.--------------------Also as a side note, the beholder entry in the 2E book also mentions "Beholders and beholder-kin are usually solitary creatures, but there are reports of large communities of them surviving deep beneath the earth and in the void between the stars, under the dominion of hive mothers."Now, that can be taken as a Lovecraft "Far Realms" reference, but back in the time it was meant as a Spelljammer reference.  In a sense, like 2E's highly mutable beholder appearance (which I agree the 2E MM picture is rather dreadful), beholder origin doesn't have one absolute place they can come from - they could be from the Deepearth, Far Realms or space; they're done up with a bit of mystery for the DM to fill in (note the mention no one knows how they reproduce, despite the presence of hive mothers).On vampires I think your dead on the money - 2E's were based on the fading Hammer Bro. depiction, while 4E's took the Anne Rice road (I prefer Anne Rice vampires, except when it comes to Strahd).Likewise it's pretty clear 4E's got the one-up on the Imp.  Part of 2E's sorry info on the may well have been from it's recent reclamation of demons and devils via Planescape - not the best example I could have chosen, but not a good excuse to let 2E off either.</blockquote>

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