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<blockquote data-quote="Altalazar" data-source="post: 3071544" data-attributes="member: 939">I apologize in advance for qutoing this all, but I wanted to capture the sentiment.&nbsp; THIS is the reason why point buy is superior to dice and always will be.&nbsp; The difference in power level you can have between characters can, by randomness, be HUGE.&nbsp; My very first 3.0 campaign that I played (DMd actually) I did the 4d6 method.&nbsp; One player ended up rolling well enough to be the equivalent of a 49 point buy.&nbsp; Another player rolled the equivalent of a 21 point buy.&nbsp; The difference was enormous.&nbsp; Anything that even barely challenged the 49 point character would slaughter the rest of the party.&nbsp; Anything that was a good match up for the rest of the party, as soon as mr 49er got in range, was toast within a round or two.&nbsp; This sort of problem persisted even as they approached 9th level.&nbsp; So...Stats are ALWAYS important.&nbsp; Even at higher levels.&nbsp; The problem is differences between PCs.&nbsp; If all PCs roll 49 points worth, fine, if they all roll 21, fine - they are even and you can adjust accordingly.&nbsp; But then if you are saying it is only ok when they roll close to each other, you effectively have point buy by accident.&nbsp; So that is why point buy is superior to dice.&nbsp; Any games where you have found dice work out ok were probably games where, by chance, the players rolled reasonably close to one another.&nbsp; Which is just point buy by accident.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Altalazar, post: 3071544, member: 939"] I apologize in advance for qutoing this all, but I wanted to capture the sentiment. THIS is the reason why point buy is superior to dice and always will be. The difference in power level you can have between characters can, by randomness, be HUGE. My very first 3.0 campaign that I played (DMd actually) I did the 4d6 method. One player ended up rolling well enough to be the equivalent of a 49 point buy. Another player rolled the equivalent of a 21 point buy. The difference was enormous. Anything that even barely challenged the 49 point character would slaughter the rest of the party. Anything that was a good match up for the rest of the party, as soon as mr 49er got in range, was toast within a round or two. This sort of problem persisted even as they approached 9th level. So... Stats are ALWAYS important. Even at higher levels. The problem is differences between PCs. If all PCs roll 49 points worth, fine, if they all roll 21, fine - they are even and you can adjust accordingly. But then if you are saying it is only ok when they roll close to each other, you effectively have point buy by accident. So that is why point buy is superior to dice. Any games where you have found dice work out ok were probably games where, by chance, the players rolled reasonably close to one another. Which is just point buy by accident. [/QUOTE]

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