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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 3072089" data-attributes="member: 35788">I'm not arguing any of this.  In fact, it furthers my point!The problem is not with the system, it is with the people.  I'll give you a case example with a large population sample so it should be normal in its distribution.Police officers carry loaded weapons more often than not.  They are taught and trained to use the weapon.  The majority of police officers don't ever actually kill anyone because they are taught how and when to appropriately shoot someone (powergame?) - and perhaps more importantly, when not to shoot someone.Conversely, take the general public.  Sure, there are many people who own a gun and know how to use it appropriately.  But there are also many people who think the gun means power that can be thrown in people's faces.  That's when people get shot and die.  Because they don't have an appropriate understanding on when it is appropriate or not.So it can be with point buy.  If you don't teach people how to roleplay and enjoy the game the right way, they're going to do what comes naturally.  The world is geared towards self-glorification.  Thus, unless people are taught, they tend to lean towards powergaming.  But if you teach people to do the game properly ... then it shouldn't make a difference on what system they use.Any system can be powergamed.  Take the example of the person who rolls a whole sheet until they get the set they want.  Take the one that only plays under a 42 point buy.  If everyone in the party is doing it, then who am I to judge so long as they are having fun.  But nobody can deny that both are powergaming!</blockquote>

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