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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3076909" data-attributes="member: 22779">I do see your point, but, then reverse the comparison.&nbsp; Take an odd level and compare it to an even one.&nbsp; A 7th level 35 point buy wizard has almost equal number of spells as an 8th level 25 point buy wizard.&nbsp; He's got an extra 3rd and 4th, which is actually exactly the same.&nbsp; Additionally, all his spells are +2 to DC, or the equivalent of several feats.&nbsp; Plus he's got a couple of extra hit dice worth of hit points, his Dex is better, giving him a better Ref save and attack bonus.&nbsp; Yes, at the next level, the 25 point character maybe pulls a little ahead (assuming he can actually CAST his spells as was mentioned) but, he's still way down on HP's, AC, skills, and Saving Throws.&nbsp; Is a single higher level spell really worth all that?&nbsp; Once a day?&nbsp; Not likely.&nbsp; These bonuses come in EVERY combat.&nbsp; That single higher level spell only comes in once.&nbsp; There can be no real denying it, IMO.&nbsp; A 10-15 point advantage is worth about one level.&nbsp; You gain the hit points, saving throws, attack bonuses and skill points of a higher level character.&nbsp; About the only thing you miss out on is the bennie which comes with that level, which varies greatly from class to class.&nbsp; And the advantages outweigh that single bennie considerably.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3076909, member: 22779"] I do see your point, but, then reverse the comparison. Take an odd level and compare it to an even one. A 7th level 35 point buy wizard has almost equal number of spells as an 8th level 25 point buy wizard. He's got an extra 3rd and 4th, which is actually exactly the same. Additionally, all his spells are +2 to DC, or the equivalent of several feats. Plus he's got a couple of extra hit dice worth of hit points, his Dex is better, giving him a better Ref save and attack bonus. Yes, at the next level, the 25 point character maybe pulls a little ahead (assuming he can actually CAST his spells as was mentioned) but, he's still way down on HP's, AC, skills, and Saving Throws. Is a single higher level spell really worth all that? Once a day? Not likely. These bonuses come in EVERY combat. That single higher level spell only comes in once. There can be no real denying it, IMO. A 10-15 point advantage is worth about one level. You gain the hit points, saving throws, attack bonuses and skill points of a higher level character. About the only thing you miss out on is the bennie which comes with that level, which varies greatly from class to class. And the advantages outweigh that single bennie considerably. [/QUOTE]

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