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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Man in the Funny Hat" data-source="post: 3080924" data-attributes="member: 32740">Honestly, I think a lot of that is simply because we STILL have this deep-seated need, largely inherited from earlier editions that you MUST ALWAYS have a high primary stat or your character is hopelessly outclassed.  A character like a monk does indeed need several equally decent scores to be as powerful as say an equivalent level fighter.  Excuse me for waxing rhetorical - but why do we feel that a monk DOES need to be as powerful as any other character?  Why can't we just take the monk for what it IS and enjoy making of it what we can?  Why can't we just take the ability scores that we happen to randomly get and enjoy making of it what we can?  3E was supposed to be about providing choices and tools, not providing rights and privileges.  Okay, maybe that's pushing it.I'm pretty sure that's the way I and others in my group played back in our 1E days and even most of our 2E days - to take what we got and enjoy making something of it (or just trying), rather than to plan out what we want and then expect it.  We craved those high scores because it was ONLY the high scores that provided bonuses and the character generation methods that were invented were obsessed with how to get those high scores.  When 3E eliminated the need for the high scores by allowing anything above average to provide bonuses I'd have thought that we'd start to be satisfied with lower average scores.  In the Olde Dayes we looked forward to those occasional characters with great stats, and were happy to see SOMEbody get them even if we were jealous that it wasn't us.  Now we see complaints that it isn't even fair if someone gets higher stats than anyone else.  Not that there wasn't always some poor wanker who was never satisfied unless HE had it all over everyone else (and maybe not even then).  But 3E hasn't changed some things at all has it?  Interesting...I swear I'm becoming more of a cranky old Luddite all the time.</blockquote>

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