Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="HeapThaumaturgist" data-source="post: 3083038" data-attributes="member: 12332">For me, all of the rolling "systems" I've played (again, multiple years over multiple states and multiple groups, from the first days of 2nd ed to today) ended up not being perfectly "true" to what was in the book.My most powerfully statted character, that particular group had a Roll 4d6 Eight Times, Reroll Ones, Drop Lowest Die, Drop Two Lowest Totals ... so, really, all of the PCs ended up about 33-35 points and my guy was at least in the 40s ... 18, 17, 17, 15, 14, 14 ... 63 points?  Ftr/Pal/DD.  I probably should have played a monk with that array, just to suck it up a little for everybody else.I want to play a paladin ... I just used Irony's dice server to serve up a normal roll (4d6x6, drop lowest) and got these numbers ... 15, 8, 12, 14, 15, 9 ... that's 27 points.  15 str8 Dex14 Con9 Int12 Wis15 ChaNow, 25 point buy (what should be an equitable point buy)14 Str10 Dex14 Con9 Int12 Wis14 ChaIs the second character more powergamed?  He's got fewer points, but +6 instead of +5 in total stat bonus!  I'd play both of them.  At 1st level the second character has an edge because I could "do more" with my fewer points by buying evens instead of odds ... at 4th level the rolled paladin breaks ahead and stays there through the rest of the career.  The second character really is more mediocre.  At 8th level I'll have probably spent my 2 adds in Con or Cha to reach 16 in one stat while the first will have blossomed into two 16s.  I'd, honestly, RATHER have the first character than the second character, since no amount of evening and finangling will get me 2 more points to play with.I don't get the value judgements being made.  If starting at 1st level would I be a better person to choose the rolled character?  What if I were coming into a game at 8th level, would I still be a better person for choosing the rolled character?If playing 28 point buy, would I be a better person to volunteer to take 27 points just for the sake of real-roleplayer manliness?  Am I superior if I make half my stats odd numbers?  Seriously, where's the moral value located at?--fje</blockquote>

Verification