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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6238851" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>The effect is a 10 foot radius, "centered on you". Our DM ruled that it extended 10 feet from the creature's base. Good ruling or bad, the effect is 20 feet across, and if it's "centered on you", as opposed to a point on the ground, ruling that it extended out from center-mass isn't unreasonable. There wouldn't be any parts of him sticking out.</p><p></p><p>And if we'd waited 110 minutes, they would have left and we wouldn't have seen them again until they were ready to pull the same trick again. We needed to capture/kill the boss, and that couldn't happen if they left. Covered that in my previous post.</p><p></p><p>Most emanations with a radius are centered on a junction of lines on the battle mat. This one would normally be centered around a Medium creature, who exists more or less in the center of a 5 foot square. So determining its area is not exactly standard. </p><p></p><p>Like I said, the DM ruled that it measured out from the creature's base. If it hadn't, but had been the standard 20 feet across, period, the giant would have done more damage in melee, when using reach to hit an opponent: They would have been outside the AMF, and the magic of his blade woula have applied, both to hit and to damage.</p><p></p><p>I ran a simple simulation against a level 17 Barbarian. Presuming that both opponents power attack for 5 (first blow is in the "don't roll a 1" category for both), the Barbarian drops the Giant, then falls himself at the start of his next action when the fire damage kicks in. </p><p></p><p>Your mileage may vary, naturally, but to my eye the combined advantages make him a CR 16 or 17.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6238851, member: 6669384"] The effect is a 10 foot radius, "centered on you". Our DM ruled that it extended 10 feet from the creature's base. Good ruling or bad, the effect is 20 feet across, and if it's "centered on you", as opposed to a point on the ground, ruling that it extended out from center-mass isn't unreasonable. There wouldn't be any parts of him sticking out. And if we'd waited 110 minutes, they would have left and we wouldn't have seen them again until they were ready to pull the same trick again. We needed to capture/kill the boss, and that couldn't happen if they left. Covered that in my previous post. Most emanations with a radius are centered on a junction of lines on the battle mat. This one would normally be centered around a Medium creature, who exists more or less in the center of a 5 foot square. So determining its area is not exactly standard. Like I said, the DM ruled that it measured out from the creature's base. If it hadn't, but had been the standard 20 feet across, period, the giant would have done more damage in melee, when using reach to hit an opponent: They would have been outside the AMF, and the magic of his blade woula have applied, both to hit and to damage. I ran a simple simulation against a level 17 Barbarian. Presuming that both opponents power attack for 5 (first blow is in the "don't roll a 1" category for both), the Barbarian drops the Giant, then falls himself at the start of his next action when the fire damage kicks in. Your mileage may vary, naturally, but to my eye the combined advantages make him a CR 16 or 17. [/QUOTE]
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