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What's the DC for a fighter to heal their ally with a prayer?
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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 8751120" data-attributes="member: 1210"><p>I would define exploitative play as trying to do things in the game your character has no way to do mechanically, that there are ways to do mechanically, and that the character has passed on the chance to use, take, or adopt.</p><p></p><p>You don't see healing another character, something that fighters have no way to do in the game without investing in something that requires them to give up some other option, as a special advantage?</p><p></p><p>The Grey Mouser isn't a D&D character, so it's a very poor example. But if you look at the translation of him in the 1e Deities and Demigods, he has three levels of magic-user. So there you go: he invested in the required mechanics to do the thing he wants to do.</p><p></p><p>Also, a 1e thief had the ability to use magic items restricted to other classes, so you have that, too.</p><p></p><p>It's in the same place as a character who is all druid entering a barbarian rage, or a pc who is all sorcerer giving out bardic inspiration. It's in the same place as the wizard character using Action Surge to get two spells in a round. </p><p></p><p>The exploit is the character is healing without investing in the required mechanics to heal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 8751120, member: 1210"] I would define exploitative play as trying to do things in the game your character has no way to do mechanically, that there are ways to do mechanically, and that the character has passed on the chance to use, take, or adopt. You don't see healing another character, something that fighters have no way to do in the game without investing in something that requires them to give up some other option, as a special advantage? The Grey Mouser isn't a D&D character, so it's a very poor example. But if you look at the translation of him in the 1e Deities and Demigods, he has three levels of magic-user. So there you go: he invested in the required mechanics to do the thing he wants to do. Also, a 1e thief had the ability to use magic items restricted to other classes, so you have that, too. It's in the same place as a character who is all druid entering a barbarian rage, or a pc who is all sorcerer giving out bardic inspiration. It's in the same place as the wizard character using Action Surge to get two spells in a round. The exploit is the character is healing without investing in the required mechanics to heal. [/QUOTE]
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