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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OneRedRook" data-source="post: 8751379" data-attributes="member: 35028">Which rules are those? I couldn't find them in the books.I know, I'm being facetious. And I know what you mean. But I think it's worth remembering that for the most part the rules for D&D cover what players can achieve through the game mechanics, and the rules about what they cannot achieve are much fewer. I think there is a tendency to judge what can't be achieved by implication, and I worry that's a trap (at least I worry that it is for me).I agree it would be absolutely unfair for, say, a champion fighter to engage with the spellcaster mechanics, involving spell slots, etc, without the relevant mechanical guff. But from there I wouldn't go so far as to say all supernatural phenomena are off limits to their conception of their character in a 5e game. If the player has an idea that seems like it's in-genre there'd need to be a quick discussion about scope and failure consequence, and after that? Prove it by making the roll.Here's a simpler question along a similar theme: having already spent their action and bonus action, a player needs their character to move 35ft to get out of danger, but they only have 30ft of movement. Is there a test you would consider that would let them make the distance? For me the answer is yes: DC 13 Athletics check, failure condition is probably Prone, unless something else in the scenario seems like a better fit.</blockquote>