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What's the DC for a fighter to heal their ally with a prayer?
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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8753993" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>That seems an unwarranted assumption to me. For an open ended hypothetical I think it is best to not assume only one interpretation. I think it makes more sense to discuss the multiple possible things that could be going on.</p><p></p><p>I am not sure what you mean here. Presumably they do different things.</p><p></p><p>My proposal is that there are tons of options for a DM to go with. No cost, trivial cost, balanced cost, high cost, rewarding the character, punishing the character.</p><p></p><p>Also we don't know the cause of the dying companion, maybe the fighter was possessed and dropped their companion or used a stick of dynamite or whatever that caught their companion in its blast.</p><p></p><p>Without reason? </p><p></p><p>My hypothetical is a fighter who plans to multiclass into paladin and has this situation where they pray for their companion as roleplaying part of that transition. This fighter who gets a divine intervention answer to their prayer is not incurring a cost compared to the situation where the fighter's prayer is not answered and they multiclasses into paladin (either figuring the stabilization roll was the gods answering his prayer, or that they need to dedicate their self to the gods so they can divinely heal future dying people, or becoming an anti-theist vengeance paladin who resents the gods who did not answer their prayers to heal their companion).</p><p></p><p>I am not suggesting any <strong>must</strong> here.</p><p></p><p>We don't even know from the given hypothetical whether combat is ongoing. Their is no opportunity cost of giving up attacking an enemy if there is no enemy to attack. The combat could be over, this could be death from a trap or a disease or whatever.</p><p></p><p>I disagree, I think the question is what do you want to happen?</p><p></p><p>Could be. This is going to vary dramatically by context. If the gods are the Cthulhu mythos or the Melnibonean Lords of Chaos then any prayer and divine intervention could fairly risk resulting in a catastrophic result. If drawing on the power of the gods is dangerous or capricious (or is so for those doing so without the proper preparation or investiture or whatever) then I would not say it would be categorically unfair.</p><p></p><p>Or we go with it without costs. One option is the prayer is answered and the dying person is not just stabilized but healed.</p><p></p><p>I think the standard baseline is nothing happens here, so impossible, but D&D leaves room for lots of options if a DM desires. </p><p></p><p>I do think the baseline is specific mechanics heal, others do not.</p><p></p><p>I do think an option would be to evaluate what could be done with existing mechanics (medicine check or healing kit) and come up with something similar using the different narrative (prayer) and different mechanics (religion check). Sort of say yes and make the result similar to what could be done naturally in the game using existing mechanics. This could be [USER=6696971]@Manbearcat[/USER]'s thing or not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 8753993, member: 2209"] That seems an unwarranted assumption to me. For an open ended hypothetical I think it is best to not assume only one interpretation. I think it makes more sense to discuss the multiple possible things that could be going on. I am not sure what you mean here. Presumably they do different things. My proposal is that there are tons of options for a DM to go with. No cost, trivial cost, balanced cost, high cost, rewarding the character, punishing the character. Also we don't know the cause of the dying companion, maybe the fighter was possessed and dropped their companion or used a stick of dynamite or whatever that caught their companion in its blast. Without reason? My hypothetical is a fighter who plans to multiclass into paladin and has this situation where they pray for their companion as roleplaying part of that transition. This fighter who gets a divine intervention answer to their prayer is not incurring a cost compared to the situation where the fighter's prayer is not answered and they multiclasses into paladin (either figuring the stabilization roll was the gods answering his prayer, or that they need to dedicate their self to the gods so they can divinely heal future dying people, or becoming an anti-theist vengeance paladin who resents the gods who did not answer their prayers to heal their companion). I am not suggesting any [B]must[/B] here. We don't even know from the given hypothetical whether combat is ongoing. Their is no opportunity cost of giving up attacking an enemy if there is no enemy to attack. The combat could be over, this could be death from a trap or a disease or whatever. I disagree, I think the question is what do you want to happen? Could be. This is going to vary dramatically by context. If the gods are the Cthulhu mythos or the Melnibonean Lords of Chaos then any prayer and divine intervention could fairly risk resulting in a catastrophic result. If drawing on the power of the gods is dangerous or capricious (or is so for those doing so without the proper preparation or investiture or whatever) then I would not say it would be categorically unfair. Or we go with it without costs. One option is the prayer is answered and the dying person is not just stabilized but healed. I think the standard baseline is nothing happens here, so impossible, but D&D leaves room for lots of options if a DM desires. I do think the baseline is specific mechanics heal, others do not. I do think an option would be to evaluate what could be done with existing mechanics (medicine check or healing kit) and come up with something similar using the different narrative (prayer) and different mechanics (religion check). Sort of say yes and make the result similar to what could be done naturally in the game using existing mechanics. This could be [USER=6696971]@Manbearcat[/USER]'s thing or not. [/QUOTE]
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