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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8754316" data-attributes="member: 42582">At least for 4e D&D, I don't agree with your baseline, except this bit: specific mechanics heal. I don't know 5e all that well, but what I do know doesn't make it clear why the baseline should be different in that version.As I see it, the baseline for both 4e and 5e is a magical, even mythical, world with active divine forces. And both are very permissive in their healing and recovery rules. So I think the baseline here is something might happen.I thought the whole point of a RPG was Players can try anything that makes sense, given the fiction? But you seem to be arguing that fairness requires treating a RPG just like a boardgame, with only mechanically pre-defined moves permitted.</blockquote>