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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 8762886" data-attributes="member: 48965">Do you see it put forward for everyone to have unarmed defense?&nbsp; To use dexterity instead of Strength for attack and damage rolls of unarmed strikes?&nbsp; To have scaling unarmed attacks?&nbsp; Use Ki?&nbsp; This post is disingenuous and I think you know it.&nbsp; One category is so broad as to be meaningless and the other is a specific maneuver among many that the Battlemaster can perform (among many others) better.No, in D&amp;D,&nbsp; the DM does that and I think nearly everyone has been in agreement about that for awhile now.&nbsp; Some find these mechanics to be the limiting point in their world... I think it would be fair to just assume we are talking about our own games when posting.&nbsp; The problem is that setting limitations are being painted as badwrongfun in this thread by a certain contingent of posters... which is par for the course in particular threads where a small but &quot;LIKE&quot; happy group of posters who are very ingrained in their way of doing things and are unwilling to acknowledge the validity of other playstyles, ways of running the game, etc. but also claim it is their style of play being attacked eventually get what they want as people drift away from the thread and it becomes an echo chamber (YAY!!) or it gets closed down because of the vitriol going back and forth.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 8762886, member: 48965"] Do you see it put forward for everyone to have unarmed defense? To use dexterity instead of Strength for attack and damage rolls of unarmed strikes? To have scaling unarmed attacks? Use Ki? This post is disingenuous and I think you know it. One category is so broad as to be meaningless and the other is a specific maneuver among many that the Battlemaster can perform (among many others) better. No, in D&D, the DM does that and I think nearly everyone has been in agreement about that for awhile now. Some find these mechanics to be the limiting point in their world... I think it would be fair to just assume we are talking about our own games when posting. The problem is that setting limitations are being painted as badwrongfun in this thread by a certain contingent of posters... which is par for the course in particular threads where a small but "LIKE" happy group of posters who are very ingrained in their way of doing things and are unwilling to acknowledge the validity of other playstyles, ways of running the game, etc. but also claim it is their style of play being attacked eventually get what they want as people drift away from the thread and it becomes an echo chamber (YAY!!) or it gets closed down because of the vitriol going back and forth. [/QUOTE]

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