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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovi" data-source="post: 8763355" data-attributes="member: 7037596">All of those reward the investment with guaranteed functionality.  You don't need to ask the GM or get some cost at the time of usage, you deploy the ability and it work.  That's the benefit for the investment.  We're going to have to disagree on what qualifies as "significant" for investments.  All of the things you list as "significant" investments (other than the healer's kit which I'll just straight disagree is a significant investment or risk) come with other features that also justify the investment -- we aren't talking about just getting this, but getting multiple things for that investment.The game also lays out that the GM can determine that the fighter praying to heal an ally without deployment of an established fiat ability can also be done.  This argument is that the play cannot diverge from whatever buttons the character sheet provides.  I'm not actually contesting your desire to not allow it -- you're perfectly good in that interpretation.  I'm poking at the justifications your providing for doing so because they're not very solid -- niche isn't really a strong concept at all in 5e and 'investment' doesn't hold much water either.  You can just say you don't like allowing things ad hoc, and that's perfectly reasonable as an opinion.  I'm not arguing that it is.  That's going to be something tables prefer.  I'd like it at my table as a GM because it gives an awesome lever on play because I can establish costs and see if the player is willing to pay them and what that means for the character.  I like that stuff a lot and that's how my play looks these days.  As little as 7 years ago, though, and I'd have been firmly on your side of this argument.  I've changed my mind.  Allowing it is now better for me, but I'd never claim it's better in any objective manner.  It's different, and I happen to have come around to liking that difference.</blockquote>

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