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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8763413" data-attributes="member: 6801228">There is a difference. The Eldritch Knight learned magic well. The Battlemaster did not learn magic well, they learned it poorly. Pretty big difference, as I can prove by the fact that I learned math, science, and english very well, but I don't have a head for languages and thus learned german and spanish poorly. So poorly that I really do not effectively speak them at all.If Arcana does not represent magical knowledge, what does it represent?Do you feel taking an hour to cast an spell that normally takes an action, is only really useful in combat, and at the cost of multiple hit dice is terribly straining to the character building resources? Do you imagine there are wizards who are going to be beating down my door, begging for the chance to take SIX HUNDRED times longer and blast away a portion of their health? Seriously, your objection seems to miss the entire point of the post, or even really the entire topic at hand. What character building resources are taken by a DC 10 Wisdom (Medicine) check that literally anyone can attempt? That has nothing to do with character building resources AT ALL. And THAT is the standard we are looking at for the prayers being answered. Something with effectively zero cost in terms of character building.</blockquote>