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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 791646" data-attributes="member: 151">I'm off two minds on the issue.  It was my understanding that Gygax has stated that he always envisioned Greyhawk as essentially a somewhat generic, intended-to-be-personalized campaign.  That is to say, details were always left fairly sketchy on purpose so that individual DMs could do what they choose with the material.  For example, nine gods were imprisoned beneath Castle Greyhawk.  Which nine?  Why were they imprisoned?  Are they still there?  And so forth.  My Greyhawk, where an ancient council of dragons has secretly held sway over the political fortunes of the Flanaess (and now wages open war upon itself) is certainly not similar to someone else's Greyhawk, let alone Gary's original campaign.  The Forgotten Realms was envisioned as the antithesis to this approach, providing vast amounts of detail for those who wanted it.  How many shoe shops are in Corymyr?  Why are there six standing stones in IceWind Dale, and why do the Red Wizards of Thay secretly covet them?  And so forth.On the other hand, new material is enjoyable.  Some Greyhawk fans see the golden treatment that the Realms receives, and desire some of that for their setting of choice.  Wouldn't a separate GHCS be nice as a sister book to the FRCS and Kalamar books?  The LGG is a good book...but the material deserves more treatment.  A lot of Greyhawk material still needs collation and updating for 3E (or 3.5E, now).  A great deal of information has never been approached, that would be appreciated.  Some folks want a 'The Shield Lands', approached the same way that "The Silver Marches' was, for example.  While WoG fans may not desire the same level of granularity as FR fans (though the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive), they do prefer more detail than currently exists.  A desire for details on the Death Knights under 3E, for example, made their appearance in the LGJ very appreciated.As for the direction issue, I don't much care, myself, but some do.  Some didn't like the direction that Sargent took Greyhawk in, essentially toppling empires and making large, hard-to-ignore changes in the official material.  It's one thing to say that Xavener is overking of The Great Kingdom...it's another to say that the Great Kingdom no longer exists, and is now four separate splinter-states with differing political structures.  Mind you, much of this is just the march of time, and I don't much care.  To some, it's a serious issue, though.  They want the setting to recieve attention and development, but desire a certain static nature to the newer material.To each his own.As to term Grognard...it can be an insult, compliment, or merely a point of reference, depending on the speaker, IMHO.  It's contextual enough that you need to consider the source and destination, per se.</blockquote>

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