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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tomBitonti" data-source="post: 9275880" data-attributes="member: 13107">Not sure this helps.  There are plenty of completely open systems which exhibit complex, unpredictable behaviors.  See for example, the Mendelbrot equation, which is the essence of simplicity but which has complex behavior on critical values.The thesis which seems to be central to the discussion is that AI systems increasingly contain internal parts which are largely indecipherable.  Here “black box" is confusing, in that the internal parts may be entirely exposed, their operation wholly visible to the interested.  My sense is that the systems cannot be understood because there are too many parts (here weights count as parts), such that meaning is diffused across the many parts.TomB</blockquote>